The Dr Who thread

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:30 pm 0

Darkflame wrote:So that more leaves the question, can a time lord survive a direct strike by that much electricity?

Well, it's previously established that he's largely immune to massive doses of radiation...

seibu · Post by **seibu** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:46 pm 0

arron wrote: It is getting to the point of being silly, cranking out improbable story elements and deus ex machina endings like some bad B-Movie or kids saturday morning cartoon.

I think this, and Arron's recent posts in general, have got it absolutely right. It's frustrating to watch New Who because it tends to combine a few excellent ideas, humour and a great sense of fun and characterisation with pointlessly lazy plotting. How hard is it to make up internally consistent resolutions to most episodes? How many times have fans suggested very small modifications which would make episodes hugely more coherent? And for that matter, dramatic and satisfying.

I'm sick of being told "It's just for kids", or "Stop over-analysing it". I'm not a moron, and actually, neither are kids. Russell T. Davies and writers: Stop being so bloody lazy with your plotting. It's not hard. If a bunch of no-talent internet fans like us can end stories sensibly, so can you.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:50 pm 0

I dunno. It annoying me a lot less than the last series' it's-not-about-the-Doctor attitude, so I'm finding I quite enjoy this series so far. I do agree that will probably wear thin a bit if it doesn't improve though.

Ollie · Post by **Ollie** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:01 pm 0

Bog wrote:A lot of it's in how they fly. The Daleks in "Muppets Take Skaro", sorry "Daleks in Manhattan" were swooshing and swooping around. This wasn't cool. The Dalek shape is not suited to swooshing. Nor is the Dalek attitude.

The way the eponym in "Dalek" flew was, in fact, scary as hell. It didn't swizz around like a Huey in a cheap post-Platoon vietnam movie, it stalked through the air. From it's slide up the stairs to it's glide into the room full of soliders, it moved with that sinister deliberation, owning it's patch of sky. Even the ranks of flying daleks in "Parting of the Ways" or the last ep with Rose had that deliberation.

Bog is right. Listen to Bog.

Talking of jumping sharks, frankly I think that's what the Daleks did in this story.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:10 pm 0

You big bunch of girls. Jumping the shark jumped the shark years ago. What a totally overused phrase that is.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:13 pm 0

Dio wrote:I dunno. It annoying me a lot less than the last series' it's-not-about-the-Doctor attitude, so I'm finding I quite enjoy this series so far. I do agree that will probably wear thin a bit if it doesn't improve though.

I think this series has been much better, but I think its the concepts more then anything else.
Also, I prefer this companion so far.

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:20 pm 0

Darkflame wrote:Also, I prefer this companion so far.

* pushes glasses onto forehead, lies back and awaits the barrage of complaints about Martha's family next week

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:24 pm 0

They might not be complaining the week after though

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:28 pm 0

Harlequin wrote:* pushes glasses onto forehead, lies back and awaits the barrage of complaints about Martha's family next week

Christ, are you kidding? FFS. I thought we'd left this tedious Eastenders bollocks behind last series.

kalmar · Post by **kalmar** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:29 pm 0

Dio wrote:
Harlequin wrote:* pushes glasses onto forehead, lies back and awaits the barrage of complaints about Martha's family next week
Christ, are you kidding? FFS. I thought we'd left this tedious Eastenders bollocks behind last series.

Oh don't start that again

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:40 pm 0

RTD bloody started it again first.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:40 pm 0

Dio wrote:RTD bloody started it again first.

All joking aside. Have a little paitence on this one. If what I've read is correct he's going somewhere a little different this time.

anon76235 · Post by **anon76235** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:56 pm 0

NAH, HES GUNNA SHAFT US WITH SOME MORE TRIPE

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:58 pm 0

FX23- master ov questions wrote:NAH, HES GUNNA SHAFT US WITH SOME MORE TRIPE

Shafting with tripe? That's taking gay agenda to new heights. And before the watershed too

piku · Post by **piku** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:18 pm 0

Sir_LANs-a-lot wrote:Why did Dalek Caan instigate another "Emergency Temporal Shift"? - It's not like the Doctor was armed and about to destroy him in some way.

Because you can't simply wipe out the Doctor's nemesis in a simple "kazap byebye!" moment. Haven't you read the "101 tricks to prolong a franchise" book?

It should have gone back a few hours and said "Look, zap the one-eyed tentacle weirdo. The Doctor is coming through that door in five minutes so zap him too". We could have had a fun time-shifting episode that leaves the universe in a nasty tangled knot.

Less talking to your victims, just zap them and be done with it. Shoot first, scream "EXTERMINATE!" after.