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PVB wrote:
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/morten wrote:off of
Sorry, but why are speakers of the English language still allowed to get away with this? Can we get some stickers made up to prevent this bollocks mangling of English? It's easily as retarded as the most basic misuse of the apostrophe.
He's from Denmark, so any slight mangling of a second language should (IMHO) be excused. :wink:
I am English and was taught that 'off of' is correct grammar. 'Off' by itself in such a phrase sounds horribly USAmerican to my ear.
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I wasn't agreeing with the 'correction', just saying that foreign peeps should be given a little slack. :wink:
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Harlequin wrote:I am English and was taught that 'off of' is correct grammar. 'Off' by itself in such a phrase sounds horribly USAmerican to my ear.
"From" is an entirely successful replacement for "off of" in that sentence, and most others, IMO.

I do not in any way want to get at /morten, as PVB says, being foreign is a valid excuse, and using an informal construction such as "off of" probably shows a better than average grasp of the language as it is often abused by native speakers. That said, "off of" is not acceptable formal English to me. I can imagine a class warfare type lefty teacher taking the view that since the working class often use that "off of" construction, it must be better than anything that comes from the upper class. I don't take the view that the upper class is correct on this issue because they are upper class, in my view they just happen, for whatever reasons, to be doing what is correct due to the internal rules of the English language. It all comes down to what one learned in school, and from reading books.

My schools weren't in the least posh, but there were probably some pedants among the teachers. :)
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zip accident wrote:I do not in any way want to get at /morten, as PVB says, being foreign is a valid excuse, and using an informal construction such as "off of" probably shows a better than average grasp of the language as it is often abused by native speakers. That said, "off of" is not acceptable formal English to me. I can imagine a class warfare type lefty teacher taking the view that since the working class often use that "off of" construction, it must be better than anything that comes from the upper class. I don't take the view that the upper class is correct on this issue because they are upper class, in my view they just happen, for whatever reasons, to be doing what is correct due to the internal rules of the English language. It all comes down to what one learned in school, and from reading books.

My schools weren't in the least posh, but there were probably some pedants among the teachers. :)
I was taught to pronounce the word often as "off-tn", but many years later was told it should be pronounced "off-n".

Still not sure that's right.
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I hear it all the time on US shows, US news etc. I rarely hear it from people in the UK. I've always considered it to be hideous American mangling of our great language. The 'of' part is completely redundant, there's absolutely no justification for it.
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I went to a posh school and 'off of' was considered to be correct.
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It doesn't matter which school you went to, most Brits don't say "off-of". That's a fact. I've lived for extended periods in both the North and South and have also worked in the US (where in my experience almost all Americans say "off-of"). I'm willing to bet it's an Americanism:

http://www.englishforums.com/English/Of ... r/post.htm
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While I hate to bring this thread back to GR Rev, can I just say:

a) I bought it; and

b) I love it!

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OK I've set a record for the Endurance Mode - 1 point.
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Gridrunner Revolution OUT NOW }:-).

Not the 360 XBLA version, the one originally announced. Bummed its in a murky place right now as far as release dates go...
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Just got my new PC with a decent graphics card. The Gridrunner Rev Demo is beautimus!

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bcass wrote:
/morten wrote:off of
Sorry, but why are speakers of the English language still allowed to get away with this? Can we get some stickers made up to prevent this bollocks mangling of English? It's easily as retarded as the most basic misuse of the apostrophe.
"Retarded" ???
How's your Danish mate ?

I consider myself a fair speaker of your beloved English language but I do expect people to make allowances for the odd error and misunderstanding.

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/morten wrote:How's your Danish mate ?
Not good, but then I'm not posting on a Danish internet forum. Don't take it to heart too much, there's nothing wrong with your English. It's just that particular detail that's a pet hate of mine. You get the occasional English person doing it as well sometimes. I think it's a good time to be promoting good English. The language seems to be gradually falling apart at the seams since the advent of the web and mobile phones.
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The English you write there would have utterly shocked any Victorian gentleman.

I'm sure the grammar Nazis can pick your words apart bit by bit if you like. I see at least two mistakes and another couple of things which are quite jarring ;) .
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Yeah, nobody speaks or writes any language perfectly. That's not what I'm talking about, but you knew that anyway.
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