Fool me, this is real good shit ! [the VR thread]

[Darkflame]

Well, one down anyway
http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-06/eye-robot

[gumboot]

I would have thought that VR would emulate AR, using cameras.

You can't emulate AR with VR, because the camera needs to be located at the same location as your eye, and that location is otherwise occupied.

Use mirrors. That's probably the most trivial problem of all.

[gilesgoat]

I would have thought that VR would emulate AR, using cameras.

You can't emulate AR with VR, because the camera needs to be located at the same location as your eye, and that location is otherwise occupied.

Use mirrors. That's probably the most trivial problem of all.

What's the problem ? You put two cameras on the other side of the screen.

[Dio]

Those aren't where your eyes normally are. The key word in AR is "reality". It isn't going to feel very real if your eyes have magically moved 10cm forward outside your head.

[gumboot]

Mirror the back of the screen, point cameras at the mirrors at the same distance as your eyes are from the mirror, in-fill the blind spots cast by the cameras with the other camera and geometric correction for just that small spot.

[Dio]

The optics of that sound rather challenging. Plus a flat plane mirror wouldn't give a very wide FOV. Maybe only 40 degrees or so vertical...

[Darkflame]

On a somewhat related note, I often wondered what it would feel like to replace your vision with cameras (or mirrors) set a different distance apart then normal - effectively stretching your stereoscopic separation.
Would the 3D of the real world seem deeper? Would your brains ability to merge the images quickly stop?

[Dio]

Brain will adapt to a lot of things optically. You can wear glasses that turn the world upside down and you get used to it in a week or two.

[seibu]

On a somewhat related note, I often wondered what it would feel like to replace your vision with cameras (or mirrors) set a different distance apart then normal - effectively stretching your stereoscopic separation.
Would the 3D of the real world seem deeper? Would your brains ability to merge the images quickly stop?

Ah ha! I know this.

You can play with this using a normal rift DK1. You can set how far apart your virtual "eyes" are in the virtual world so to speak, and experiment with it.

What I found was that fiddling with eye distance could make you see more defined depth among far away objects, but then with objects close to you, you begin to get double vision. Eventually the image just breaks down and you get complete double vision. Basically, it seemed like my brain was pretty hard-coded to my eye distance. You might be able to train your brain to different eye distances over time. I'd rather not try it though!

[Misfit]

Looks like DK2 is coming soon. Just got this...

Hi Marc,

We are preparing to start shipping the new Oculus Rift Development Kit 2. Please take a moment to update your billing and shipping information on the Order Management page: https://www.oculusvr.com/sales/.

Incomplete information or errors with your payment information or shipping address will cause shipping delays.

For people that purchased using credit cards, we have already charged a $50 deposit. We will charge the remaining balance to the original credit card shortly before we ship your DK2. If we are unable to charge the credit card on file, you will receive an email notification, but your order will be delayed until we can successfully complete the transaction.

For people that purchased using PayPal, their policy requires us to charge the full amount at the point of sale, so you’re all set. Just confirm your address and you’ll receive your kit.

To check on your order information and status:
Go to https://www.oculusvr.com/sales/
Enter the email address you used when originally placing your order
Check your email for a link to a page with your order information
Verify or update your shipping address
Verify or update your payment instrument

Thanks,
Oculus VR

[Dvorak]

Nice.
When did you order, Misfit?
Mine is still "awaiting inventory"...

[Misfit]

Nice.
When did you order, Misfit?
Mine is still "awaiting inventory"...

Mine says the same, but from what I've read about previous deliveries getting an email like this means it's pretty imminent.

I ordered on the 28th March.

Exciting!

Now where is that damn flight stick...

[Dvorak]

My order is from the 22nd of March, but I haven't received any email yet.
Which doesn't mean a thing, I reckon. DK1 was in the post one day without any prior notice.

Exciting, indeed.

[Mqark]

Trying to avoid pulling the trigger on DK2 - would be stupid while I still have DK1 sitting at home...

But it's very tempting.

I wonder if they'll make it to DK3 before the consumer release?

[gilesgoat]

Trying to avoid pulling the trigger on DK2 - would be stupid while I still have DK1 sitting at home...

But it's very tempting.

I wonder if they'll make it to DK3 before the consumer release?

Can't wait for the DK2 as well ( ordered the first time ordering became available ) .. so I can't really speak fully yet but I'd dare to say "sell the DK1, get the DK2".

If the DK2 is SO good as "other things I've seen" ... it's like "JUST WANT IT" .. end.