Trump

[gilesgoat]

Frankly, even if he loses, this is a solid vindication of the Trump strategy.

Last time he was an unknown quantity, up against a vulnerable Democratic option, with all the social media problems largely uncontrolled. This time he's already got more votes than he did last time, against a (relatively) stronger candidate, and with there absolutely no doubts about exactly what kind of President he was going to be, and while it's hardly been a clean race it's a lot less murky than the previous.

Well yes .. it's pretty clear who he is and what he want/does ... so the people voting for him !

[phattslagg]

The right will continue to narrowly win elections in the US, UK and similarly divided nations, until the Left can get a handle on the kind of big data that the alt-right are using to micro-target and manipulate the demographics that are susceptible to their message. Unfortunately, the companies who are collating this data are clearly in the pockets of the right. It’s not a fair playing field at the moment.

[gilesgoat]

The right will continue to narrowly win elections in the US, UK and similarly divided nations, until the Left can get a handle on the kind of big data that the alt-right are using to micro-target and manipulate the demographics that are susceptible to their message. Unfortunately, the companies who are collating this data are clearly in the pockets of the right. It’s not a fair playing field at the moment.

I don't think it's just that ... my belief is that "you can tell me any bollocks you want but I still can see through most of your lies" .. so "what do they have those susceptible demographics ?" .. do they belive to any stories someone tells them ? And if so, why it does not work with the left as well ?

I think the problem is there are really a lot of people beliving in the "rightists" messages the world is definitely divided, probably because "in the end of the day, or you are right or you are left" .. that's the thing that comes into my mind I think we are more and more losing "the ways in the middle", there's no middle ground, or you are this or you are that ?

[edit] - I can give you that maybe "those with hands in big money" are more interested in "right" than "left" so they have the power to make the things tilt their side, and that's maybe what makes the right win.

[KlaxonCow]

As usual, the satire nails it, where reality has zero clue.

[gilesgoat]

As usual, the satire nails it, where reality has zero clue.

He's SUPER RIGHT ... sadly .. but he's right ..

[snaff]

Oh well, it's been a good four years.

[Harlequin]

… This time he's already got more votes than he did last time, against a (relatively) stronger candidate, and with there absolutely no doubts about exactly what kind of President he was going to be, and while it's hardly been a clean race it's a lot less murky than the previous.

I would consider that in context of the higher turnout overall. More votes have now allegedly been counted for Biden than for any prior U.S. Presidential candidate in history.

He currently seems to have quite a good chance of winning even before the Philadelphia postal votes are counted.

(After which, of course, there will probably be the recount demands and the Supreme Court case).

[Dio]

Sure. But equally, Trump will do very well by such metrics, win or lose, and nobody can protest they don't know exactly what they're voting for with Trump this time around.

The right will continue to narrowly win elections in the US, UK and similarly divided nations, until the Left can get a handle on the kind of big data that the alt-right are using to micro-target and manipulate the demographics that are susceptible to their message. Unfortunately, the companies who are collating this data are clearly in the pockets of the right. It’s not a fair playing field at the moment.

Last time I think this was a fair argument. This time round there's a lot less evidence of it.

And, really, that's to be expected - it is far less necessary this time, because Trump at least is a perfectly known quantity. Nobody can be ignorant of who Trump is and pretty much exactly what they are voting for, this time round. Perhaps a few people are being scared into voting for Trump, but the majority who are ticking his box are doing it with a 100% conscious choice about what they're doing.

[gilesgoat]

Sure. But equally, Trump will do very well by such metrics, win or lose, and nobody can protest they don't know exactly what they're voting for with Trump this time around.

The right will continue to narrowly win elections in the US, UK and similarly divided nations, until the Left can get a handle on the kind of big data that the alt-right are using to micro-target and manipulate the demographics that are susceptible to their message. Unfortunately, the companies who are collating this data are clearly in the pockets of the right. It’s not a fair playing field at the moment.

Last time I think this was a fair argument. This time round there's a lot less evidence of it.

And, really, that's to be expected - it is far less necessary this time, because Trump at least is a perfectly known quantity. Nobody can be ignorant of who Trump is and pretty much exactly what they are voting for, this time round. Perhaps a few people are being scared into voting for Trump, but the majority who are ticking his box are doing it with a 100% conscious choice about what they're doing.

I would just say that Trump is in fact PRECISELY "the kind of man that appeal to certain people" .. the REALITY is that "certain people" are MUCH MORE THAN WE THINK ( or we'd like them to be ) THEY ARE !

I agree with Dio, this time NO SHIT, THEY KNOW PRECISELY who/what they are voting for !

"Mr let' make America Great again let's build a wall with Mexico, China is our greatest enemy, fuck all the others, America first !"

THEY ARE VOTING *FOR THAT* because "it's that what you want ?" .. yes that's what they want !!

[Harlequin]

Conversely, many (or most) could just be voting against the Democratic Party/establishment/old status quo.

[***Brexit***]

[PFVA]

Right now Biden needs just more 6 electoral votes. If he wins Nevada he has them.

[ThetaReactor]

This is all just so fucking exhausting.

[Foozwah]

Right now Biden needs just more 6 electoral votes. If he wins Nevada he has them.

Yep. Don't want to jinx it, but there's a possibility Biden might win Pennsylvania after all, as well. Drumpf is ahead there 186,760, but there's 777,000 votes still to be counted, and as they're the "vote early" ballots of the keen-for-change the ratio is skewing around 70% in Biden's favour with them, so...

This is all just so fucking exhausting.

True, but I'll take a bit of weariness and happily wait a few extra days so that everyone who voted actually gets counted, rather than just accept the tangerine shit-gibbon's time-saving yet inaccurate self-declaration of victory.

[Little stoned kiwi]

If you aren't enjoying the show, don't watch. The outcome still has a long way to go. After the final tally there will be recounts, court cases, and maybe even civil war.
Right now it's just a bunch of clowns spinning plates.

[KlaxonCow]

I'm just enjoying that we've got news where the headlines don't start with "Coronavirus:" for once.