KlaxonCow wrote:No, no. When folks moan, with their "moral outrage", that prison sentences aren't long enough and all that crap, we should entirely take this experience on board to appreciate that folks are already going stir crazy after only a month and they're not even under true "house arrest", when you can leave your home for legitimate reasons.
It was something that Winston Churchill once said. That you can measure a society's true level of "civilisation" by looking at how it treats its prisoners. I'd also extend that to include how it treats its poor and unemployed, how it treats the disabled and so forth too.
Look to how a supposed "civilisation" treats those it considers "lesser" - criminal, sick, poor or, specifically in this crisis, the old - because that tells you whether they really are a civilised decent people or not.
Well .. again .. "nothing to do with prison" BUT "I am not sure which one is really worse" .. in 1995 I had to do compulsory military service in Italy that at the time was still compulsory, 1 year.
Three months in "Caserma Duca degli Abruzzi" in La Spezia, a city, actually A MILITARY BUILDING about 400 miles away from my town in a place I never seen in my life, I say "the building" because going out of it was extremely regulated and only for some hours a week assuming you were not into some training / duty.
Now if you think all those movies a la' "Full metal jacket" with the sarge shouting you shit all time and making you do things .. "that would have been heaven in comparision to what was there" ..
ONE thing was true, we DID had the sarge shouting shit and you and treating like a piece less than shit but instead of doing something .. ANYTHING .. we were making stand in the middle of a cement square for HOURS like statues without moving while someone was literally "shouting numbers" like "ALM 1732 .. ALM 1567 .. ALM 865" .. if it happened to be yours you finally were "assigned to something" and from that on you were "officially and legally" a recruit.
"ALM" stands for "Aspirante Leva Marina" .. which means something like "a recruit waiting to be assigned" you'll learn soon that the military have some "weird terminology for everything" you call it "thootbrush" they maybe call it "personal dental highyene small brush model 1.33" ... and if you say it wrong you'll get punished ! You don't need to know a thing about how to win a war but it's VERY IMPORTANT you know how to name things properly !
But until you get that it was being move from that *(&£"&(*"&%*(£% square from one "Waiting room" to another .. we spend nearly 2 WEEKS sometime even 6 HOURS A DAY waiting .. be that sun or cold or whatever without the possibility to go to the loo or such, or move, you STAND as they told you to do ..
Occasionally, twice a day ( lunch / dinner ) , there was a small break for lunch/dinner .. .. which the first time I ever seen their "food court" .. was something out of a "this can't be real it's a joke/movie" .. it was far too real .. sufficient I say "cattle probably is treated better and have better food".
To sleep .. the sleeping quarters .. were NOT like in the movies "where everything is in impeccable order" .. again "close to hell" is the closest description I could give, I am sure there is "much order in prisons" where cells are smaller (? I suppose ) and you don't have 50 people per room "not sleeping and doing all crap all time" where you are SUPPOSED to sleep at some point.
No the "oh dear I lost the soap would you pick it up" that was NOT a thing but the "give me ALL your money/valuables/shit/things you are eating/cigarettes/whatever I want of I'll beat you up until you are on the floor" that WAS an any day reality and "staying alive UNbeated" was a skill to learn pretty fast.
Beliveme I HAVE SEEN some people going "totally bananas" in the real sense, things "to be sent to a psychiatric ward" or a hospital - quite some did - because they eneded up beaten up badly in about 2 weeks time since start ..
Spare you fuckload of story I would skip to 4 months on board "closed in a metallic box with no windows under artificial lights 24/24 working nearly 20/24" at least that was "at most" for 20 days in a row at the time .. still .. 20 days in such conditions are .. "interesting" ..
Still for who was working in the kitchen - me - there's still TONS of work even when the boat is at the port, you always have to cook for 4 different shifts and at very least 50 people .. 140 when in full motion .. .. and the whole kitchen stuff were .. 4 people .. plus sometime 1 or 2 'helpers' ..
Add as a "bonus" when the sea was bad and "everything waves and moves" .. "how to work 20 hours with the worst flu of your life feeling you are about to puke every 5 mins" ..
It's hot, it's moving, it's stinking, it's really hard, it's ()*$("(*($)£"*()$)£" people wanting ()*$(*$()£"()$ all time breaking ()*$£"()*£" your balls all time .. "stress levels I don't know what you are talking about, we are all mad here".
Switch to last 5 months to "Maridist Venice", tourist don't know how many military installations there are in Venice, there are many ,quite hidden from tourist views .. very long stories made short "they were all mad in there" our "kitchen chief" was convinced, for real, to have PARANORMAL POWERS .. ..
I am NOT making this up ...
Again LOT of work, cooking for over 250 people, but at least the kitchen was bigger and we were IIRC about 10 ? 14 ? working in there .. we were ALL mad ..
Anyway .. "at home doing what you want/can do at home when you want to do it ?" ... A BREEZE
"You don't really know what else is out there you never tried"
