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Marius wrote:
WiteWulf wrote:Yup....got very little to do with the table top game at all except the setting and name. It looks pretty dire, tbh. The closest you can get to a decent Shrun computer game these days is still to fire up a SNES emulator and play the great old cartridge of the same name.
Ooh, I used to love the SNES version. Can't remenber if I ever completed it, though. Any other good shadowrun-games out there.
Megaddrive version is not quite as good as the SNES one, but then they're completely different games. There was a Mega CD version as well that was different again, but that was Japan-only, I think, and never translated.

Shame, cause it looked interesting. Shadowrun with anime design. Odd.
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Like the look of the Shadowrun universe, but not a fan so the approach of the new game doesn't offend me per se, but the idea that it is multiplayer only and so light on content is absolutely ridiculous. Looking at the intro, it makes you long for the singleplayer FPS that it was clearly going to be at some point.

I was appalled by some of the faults the reviews flagged up, but when I first fired up the demo I was really impressed by the idea and execution of the glide and teleport moves. The problem really starts when you start shooting. The guns are crap, the autotargetting ridiculous, the player models are arse. . . . the whole thing is a wasted and misdirected opportunity.

The great ideas are wasted on a turgid multiplayer, the graphical style is underwhelming and unsuccessful in tweening the military and magic worlds, and it really does feel like there's a whole singleplayer game out there full of interesting puzzles that's simply been left off the disc.

So nearly there, so far away. Expecting people to pay £40 for something which feels like a cut-down Beta is extraordinarily arrogant.[/i]
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I absolutely *love* the Shadowrun universe, the backstory is fantastic and the game had some of the best long-term campaign games I've ever played (I'm thinking Harlequin, Harlequin's Back and Super Tuesday books, here). I always found Cyberpunk a bit too hard-edged and Shadowrun's blend of magic, 'fantasy' races and high-technology was nigh on perfect. It really saddens me to see Microsoft wasting this rich IP on yet another glorified FPS when there's so much more could be done with it.
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I didn't really like Counter-Strike, so for me this is like a FUN Counter-Strike. It's really well balanced and even with just bots it's a lot of fun. I'm certainly enjoying it.

I actually got the PC version, but since it plays just like the 360 one once you plug in a pad it's fine and dandy. Laid back online FPS. :)

It's also quite fun to play it from a PC, because whenever I enter an online game, people go "OOOH we have a Vista player" - which means you can get the cross platform achievements. People don't really know till someone gets one.

I think the criticism this game has had is pretty unfair. Yeah it sucks that it's tied to Vista and yeah there aren't that many maps, but it sure is fun - and not that expensive any more either.

I can understand people expecting an RPG would be disappointed, but considering that I'm not even that much of an FPS fan and I still like it, well, that has to count for something. Mind you I didn't have any previous encounter with the Shadowrun universe, so I'm just taking the game for what it is.

The characters are certainly charming in their own way and they have actually managed to squeeze a fair bit of (totally unnecessary but still nice to have) story in there.

Anyhoo. If anyone in here is playing it (sound like most haven't even given it a chance), I'm ready for some multiplayer :)
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trezzer wrote:Anyhoo. If anyone in here is playing it (sound like most haven't even given it a chance), I'm ready for some multiplayer :)
Ooh, I'd love to! It's been a while since I played it again (I wasn't a hardcore player, and I've only played the dwarf for most of the time as I am a lousy aim...

My Gamertag is Carolus Billius. Is it with the Vista thing too that you have Gamertags and friend requests? And can you also play with headset and stuff like that? (My only other cross-platform experience has been Final Fantasy XI)
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CarlBillen wrote: Ooh, I'd love to! It's been a while since I played it again (I wasn't a hardcore player, and I've only played the dwarf for most of the time as I am a lousy aim...

My Gamertag is Carolus Billius. Is it with the Vista thing too that you have Gamertags and friend requests? And can you also play with headset and stuff like that? (My only other cross-platform experience has been Final Fantasy XI)
You won't know I'm on Vista. It works the same - headset and all. I can even use the 360 headset and controller and it'll play just like the 360 version. I log into the same account I use on the Xbox and there's the same features. It's all quite lovely.

Despite having played it quite a bit I'm still a bit of a noob as I'm not used to the pace in the game, so I'm sure we'll be somewhat even :)

I've sent you a friend request :)
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Hi trezzer,

I haven't touch my Xbox yesterday, but I already accepted your friend request via the XBox site :wink:

I'll see if I can find some time the following evenings...
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trezzer wrote:I didn't really like Counter-Strike, so for me this is like a FUN Counter-Strike. It's really well balanced and even with just bots it's a lot of fun. I'm certainly enjoying it.

I actually got the PC version, but since it plays just like the 360 one once you plug in a pad it's fine and dandy. Laid back online FPS. :)

It's also quite fun to play it from a PC, because whenever I enter an online game, people go "OOOH we have a Vista player" - which means you can get the cross platform achievements. People don't really know till someone gets one.

I think the criticism this game has had is pretty unfair. Yeah it sucks that it's tied to Vista and yeah there aren't that many maps, but it sure is fun - and not that expensive any more either.

[...]

The characters are certainly charming in their own way and they have actually managed to squeeze a fair bit of (totally unnecessary but still nice to have) story in there.

Anyhoo. If anyone in here is playing it (sound like most haven't even given it a chance), I'm ready for some multiplayer :)
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But after that server closed, I drifted away from that kind of team-based online shooter. Shadowrun though is a worthy successor.

The balancing is brilliant and pretty much any combo of character, magics, techs and weapons is viable provided you can work out how to use them. The maps are actually much better thought out than a lot of people initially realised and whilst the three game modes might seem limited they do force you to play a different game dependent upon the mode.

It also seems to have far fewer arseholes than most Live games, and I've only had to give negative feedback to one idiot who tk'd 3 of us in a oner. If he'd apologised we'd have let it slide but he didn't seem to give a damn. The generally good community may be because you don't seem to have that many kids playing but even the kids I've come across didn't seem particularly whiny. Plus, the patches have fixed most of the connectivity issues and I rarely hit a laggy game.

I had an absolutely amazing 16-player Raid match on The Pit this evening. We were Lineage and were getting humped - down 5-0. Then one guy comes up with a beautiful strategy - around our spawn point in The Cavern we just dump trees like crazy and wait for them to start coming to us. Use the trees to block the back entrance and provide lots of cover for the side exit whilst we focus on the Big Hole.

The RNA guys headed into the Red Room and then started heading down the stairs into the Big Hole at which point we began carefully lobbing off grenades when we had a viable kill. They responded with nades and Minions but we kept our cool, made sure we took cover under a tree if our health got low and made sure to keep planting fresh trees. Every kill made, we made sure to destroy the body so they couldn't be rezzed and we always rushed to rez one of our fallen, particualry once they started trying to attack from the other entry points.

Once we'd got half of them, we'd storm out of the Cavern before securing a fresh point with Trees to cover and proceed to keep picking them off before those of us amongst the survivors collectively blitzed towards the Artifact. We'd then do a proper covering strategy to ensure we got the Artifact to the extraction point.

It worked brilliantly, even with a lot of variety in the same basic strategy as the match progressed and things like rockets came into play - but judicious use of trees and rez's saw us well.

We got it back to 5-5 and were only beaten in the final round with ten seconds to go. I was a rez-ing, tree-giving, SMG/Katana-wielding dwarf and managed to make 10 resurrections in those final six rounds.

It was genuinely great fun and intense as hell - the other team were even complementing us on such a good recovery immediately after the final round ended.

Earlier on, playing as RNA on an Extraction game in the Power Station, I also managed to score two juicy as hell nade kills against Lineage snipers on the tower whilst I was on the roof of the Power Station. The first one came because the sniper wasn't paying attention and I just rapid-lobbed two nades over the map at him catching him out, but the second was more fun.

I'd heard the shots from the sniper rifle and saw the body of a team-mate. Adding two and two together I had a pretty good idea of what had happened and where the sniper was likely to be. So I rushed forward, taking a quick opportunity to look around and confirm where the sniper roughly was and rezzed my team-mate before immediately pulling back to cover.

I then rushed out again and perfectly aimed a grenade so that it forced the sniper to move in a specific direction, then lobbed my second nade such that it landed almost exactly on the snipers head. Lovely kill...

That same match, I won a round by killing the last Lineage by forcing him to teleport then placing a shotty-round into him just as he emerged from the teleport.

It's one of those games where you just keep experiencing lovely things.
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Sadly I haven't been able to touch my 360 much the last couple of days (and I have a copy of Two Worlds and Blue Dragon lying about and a Bioshock waiting to be finished...)

But I'll put the Shadowrun-disk on the pile, so that I can stick it in every now and then :wink:
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FASA's now officially toast - end of an era, really.
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