The Dr Who thread

teamonkey · Post by **teamonkey** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:20 pm 0

I thought it was brilliant how when the runner dropped the torch, The Fonz picked it up and, while waterskiing, jumped over a shark.

Ollie · Post by **Ollie** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:22 pm 0

Harlequin wrote:We heard them going on about the disappearance for some time but after that what more could they add other than speculation?

Well, precisely. In situations like that, a huge pulsating mass of speculation descends upon the news media and leaves no room for anything else. This had the feel of, oh well, never mind that, let's get on with business as usual. Which didn't ring remotely true for me. 80,000 people vanished into thin air at a high profile event, and you don't think we'd get blanket coverage?

Bog · Post by **Bog** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:24 pm 0

I thought it was brilliant how when the runner dropped the torch, The Fonz picked it up and, while waterskiing, jumped over a shark.

*rummage*

Where's the "Pissing myself laughing" emoticon?

I was grumbling about how the Doctor would *never* over-expose himself that way and *never* glorygrab like that. Totally Not Who. Utterly Not Who. If that was the Doctor's comportment, then I'm the fracking Queen of Sheba.

Alarm · Post by **Alarm** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:28 pm 0

Flabio wrote:I think I read somewhere that 'Fear Her' was a late choice because Stephen Fry was late delivering his script. His is in season 3 now.

Sadly not the case now. He is too busy to complete his script in time for season 3.

Post by **Snakey** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:21 am 0

Harlequin wrote:If you like The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit and also like the finale then that's four episodes at least

That's kinda my point... I'm not convinced about this last two parter, given that the subject matter does absolutely nothing for me...

offyoutoddle wrote:
HGFB wrote:2 episodes left now.
That has just put me in a very glum mood.

...and this is why blue peter competition bollocks pisses me off. There is not enough TIME in a series for shit like that. More. Quality. Episodes. Please.

teamonkey wrote:I thought it was brilliant how when the runner dropped the torch, The Fonz picked it up and, while waterskiing, jumped over a shark.

I could have sworn I saw him in the previous episode...

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:00 am 0

teamonkey wrote:I thought it was brilliant how when the runner dropped the torch, The Fonz picked it up and, while waterskiing, jumped over a shark.

daniel thomas · Post by **daniel thomas** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:25 am 0

I don't know what everyone is bellyaching about. This is like being crowded into an elevator with Comic Book Guy.

"Last night's Itchy and Scratchy was the worst episode ever!"

Whatever.

Perhaps I'm enjoying these episodes as a good bit of television and not as as some fanboy who will always compare every new show to that classic Dr Who serial from 1975 that was Teh Bestest Thing Evah! It's just a TV show, and one that's better than the rest of the rubbish.

The great thing about the new Who is the willingness of the writers to continue to bring out new ideas and throw convention to the wind. They've even shunned much of the somber tone from last year's season in favor of much more diverse scripts. It may have thrown me off from time to time, but overall, I think it's brilliant. This really was an excellent season overall, and I'm feeling fairly depressed that it's coming to an end after two more weeks.

I'm not looking forward to Billie Piper leaving. She's an equal on the show, and I don't see how you recreate that perfect chemistry with a new actress. Please, don't let the new Who turn out like the old one, with the endless revolving door of squawky sidekicks.

I thought this week's episode was really good. Like last week's, it's a different change of pace, which seems to expand the show's palette. I'm getting burned out on monster invasion shows. Been there, done that. Come up with something new, give me some mystery and suspense, don't insult my intelligence, and don't kiss up to the nerds (nice that last week's episode digged into the obsessive fandom that ruins these shows for the casual viewers who just want to have a good time).

Still, let's hope the writers do away with the cheesy cliched lines, eh?

So next week has Cybermen again. I sure hope they get to do more this time than just march around. Let's cross our fingers for a really big finish.

Firefox · Post by **Firefox** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:46 am 0

So no spoilers then daniel?

Post by **Snakey** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:31 am 0

daniel thomas wrote:I'm getting burned out on monster invasion shows.

Then why are you watching Doctor Who?

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:49 am 0

I don't know why people are complaining about Love and Monsters being crap because it was the result of a Blue Peter competition. The only thing the competition gave us was the monster and that was quite a good monster. A creature that absorbs its victims by touch and they live on as faces attatched to its body. That's classic Doctor Who that is.

The rest of it you have to blame someone else for if you didn't like it. Didn't like the plot? Blame RTD. He wrote it. Didn't like Peter Kay? Blame Peter Kay then. But please don't blame Blue Peter.

As for the people *still* saying it's not Doctor Who?

It's called Doctor Who. That's at the start of every episode so I'm sure they didn't make a mistake.
It's got a man called the Doctor who travels time and space with a companion in a thing called the Tardis fighting evil. Check.

So far this series.

Year 5 billion. Zombies.
Queen Victoria, Werewolf.
Present Day. Alien shapechangers, K9, Sarah Jane
51st Century, Period France, Killer clockwork robots
Present day. Parallel Earth. Disco dancing Cybermen FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE
50s England. Alien in the TV eats faces
Rocky alien world in orbit around a black hole. 47th Century. Satan.
Present Day, absorbing monster. Taking the piss out of people who take a show too seriously. Blow job gag.
Immediate future, housing estate, drawings come to life.
Present day. WAR. Earth invaded by alien bastards and ghosts. Cybermen and ????????. ??????? running around killing chavs? It's TV gold man.

The only things they're missing are long, dull periods of filler, a companion who's only there so the Doctor can explain things to the audience and scream and a seamonster made out of a pantomime horse costume.

Fuck me. It looks like it's Doctor Who after all and not new BSG. Which is a relief because I can only take so much grim and gritty. As said earlier. Just stop comic book guying it to death and you might enjoy yourself more.

Except for Snakey. Dude. He isn't coming back man. Live in the now

*Edit* Doctor Who with an extended cast and set on present Day Earth a lot? It'll never work. Pertwee will be the death of the show!

oddbob0 · Post by **oddbob0** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:01 am 0

HGFB wrote:FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE

One day, I'm sure that'll stop making me laugh so much

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:02 am 0

oddbob0 wrote:
HGFB wrote:FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE
One day, I'm sure that'll stop making me laugh so much

I don't think it will

It's gone down in Doctor Who legend that has.

Post by **Snakey** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:12 am 0

HGFB wrote:That's classic Doctor Who that is.

Makes you wonder why it got canned, really. Oh, wait...

HGFB wrote:But please don't blame Blue Peter.

Well you won't let me blame Tennant.

HGFB wrote:Except for Snakey. Dude. He isn't coming back man. Live in the now

See?

I'm still waiting for him to 'get good' though, and with only two eps to go, it's not looking good.

HGFB wrote:As for the people *still* saying it's not Doctor Who?

Dude, you know what I had to say to anyone saying that at any point during the last series. But that Blue Peter episode - it wasn't Doctor Who.

HGFB wrote:It's got a man called the Doctor

..who was in it for five minutes

HGFB wrote:Taking the piss out of people who take a show too seriously.

Honestly, I didn't see that. I just saw it as shit. But then I don't take the show too seriously, I just want to be entertained.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:21 am 0

HGFB wrote:*Edit* Doctor Who with an extended cast and set on present Day Earth a lot? It'll never work. Pertwee will be the death of the show!

Regeneration? What's that? That Troughton will ruin Doctor Who. We want Hartnell back with Susan, Ian and Barbara. Doctor Who stopped being Doctor Who when they left.

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:02 am 0

offyoutoddle wrote:
seibu wrote:the torch reanimating the pod for no real reason.
The torch was not just a heat source, it was a 'beacon of hope'. That's why the energy of all the people who felt the hope of it gave it energy the pod could use.
I think.

Indeed. It needs no further anal-ysis

Snakey wrote:
Harlequin wrote:If you like The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit and also like the finale then that's four episodes at least
That's kinda my point... I'm not convinced about this last two parter, given that the subject matter does absolutely nothing for me...

I don't think that the main subject matter is going to be quite the same as in the other two-parter

And as for Kinda, I can still remember the exhilarating pace, thrilling effects and scary Snakey monster in that serial.

Which could be one reason why every modern episode seems good to me

daniel thomas wrote:The great thing about the new Who is the willingness of the writers to continue to bring out new ideas and throw convention to the wind.

Which is just what the classic series was, especially once it progressed past its educational remit: a platform for television innovation and experimentation. Some of those sixties experiments failed and others greatly expanded views on what television could achieve.

Snakey wrote:
daniel thomas wrote:I'm getting burned out on monster invasion shows.
Then why are you watching Doctor Who?

Because Doctor Who has never concentrated on invasion stories (except, perhaps, in the Pertwee years). I think there was rarely more than one invasion a year in the old days.

HGFB wrote:Fuck me. It looks like it's Doctor Who after all and not new BSG. Which is a relief because I can only take so much grim and gritty. As said earlier. Just stop comic book guying it to death and you might enjoy yourself more.

Abzorbaloffs, the lot of 'em!

Snakey wrote:
HGFB wrote:That's classic Doctor Who that is.
Makes you wonder why it got canned, really. Oh, wait...

And now it's back and at least as successful as ever. Makes me wonder if some people in Wales are doing something right

Snakey wrote:
HGFB wrote:Except for Snakey. Dude. He isn't coming back man. Live in the now
See? I'm still waiting for him to 'get good' though, and with only two eps to go, it's not looking good.

Last year was about getting over the Time War. This year has been about rediscovering the joys of travel and exploration with someone who becomes a near equal and, finally, a true soul mate. Next year, I suspect that the Doctor will have another tragedy to take on board which could only have a Time War-like impact if we see how what he loses became so important to him.

Snakey wrote:
HGFB wrote:As for the people *still* saying it's not Doctor Who?
Dude, you know what I had to say to anyone saying that at any point during the last series. But that Blue Peter episode - it wasn't Doctor Who. [...] But then I don't take the show too seriously, I just want to be entertained.

Well be entertained, then!

If the feeling that it's "not Doctor Who" is putting you off then just forget the title and enjoy forty-odd minutes of fun TV

H.
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