The Sony PS3 thread (apparently *still* obnoxious!)

[aureole]

The bits of Sony making the Blu Ray and the PlayStation 3 are very different wings of the company - if anything, the problems stem from them being too far removed from each other.

[Duck Turkin]

I think it's interesting that people are asking "what's the difference?"

Because if you don't have HD, what *is* the difference really? The games are maybe slightly shinier, but pretty much like more expensive ps2 games.

'Course the same might be said of the x360, but at least MS can point to their online stuff as being a major advance over the xbox. Ninty can point to online *and* the new controller.

Yes, true, there's the SIXAXIS but that's really just a shoehorning in of stuff to keep up with Ninty rather than a basic axion of the console like it is with Ninty.

It's all quite interesting to see how things work out over the next few months..

It's a good point, but even ignoring the potential of the PS3 what you said about the XBox360 online stuff can also be said about the PS3. Sony are certainly not going to sell units as quickly as they did for the PS2, but it looks like they have more long term plans for their machine.

[Jimaroid]

It's a good point, but even ignoring the potential of the PS3 what you said about the XBox360 online stuff can also be said about the PS3. Sony are certainly not going to sell units as quickly as they did for the PS2, but it looks like they have more long term plans for their machine.

Except Sony's online plans are a mess.

[teamonkey]

Isn't that down to Sony falling asleep at the wheel and obsession with creating brand new media formats ?

I think Sony were planning for a 2007 launch anyway: the launch of the 360 forced their hand too early, plus I don't think they were anticipating so many Blu-Ray delays.

[Duck Turkin]

It's a good point, but even ignoring the potential of the PS3 what you said about the XBox360 online stuff can also be said about the PS3. Sony are certainly not going to sell units as quickly as they did for the PS2, but it looks like they have more long term plans for their machine.

Except Sony's online plans are a mess.

But the online demos they've shown look really quite good, it seems to have some of the XBox360 stuff that look decent (I'm talking about the option of buying downloadable games etc) plus it's free!

[teamonkey]

But the online demos they've shown look really quite good, it seems to have some of the XBox360 stuff that look decent (I'm talking about the option of buying downloadable games etc) plus it's free!

It's free in that Sony won't be hosting game servers themselves and therefore won't be charging for them themselves, yes. It's not free in that Sony have a charging model in place and ready for subscription-based third party gaming servers.

[aureole]

But the online demos they've shown look really quite good, it seems to have some of the XBox360 stuff that look decent (I'm talking about the option of buying downloadable games etc) plus it's free!

Videogame company in misleading demo shock!

[Marius]

I think it's interesting that people are asking "what's the difference?"

Because if you don't have HD, what *is* the difference really? The games are maybe slightly shinier, but pretty much like more expensive ps2 games.

'Course the same might be said of the x360, but at least MS can point to their online stuff as being a major advance over the xbox. Ninty can point to online *and* the new controller.

Yes, true, there's the SIXAXIS but that's really just a shoehorning in of stuff to keep up with Ninty rather than a basic axion of the console like it is with Ninty.

It's all quite interesting to see how things work out over the next few months..

It's a good point, but even ignoring the potential of the PS3 what you said about the XBox360 online stuff can also be said about the PS3. Sony are certainly not going to sell units as quickly as they did for the PS2, but it looks like they have more long term plans for their machine.

I think it's gonna be the other way around. The PS3 will sell like crazy at first because of the fanboys. But after the dust has settled, it will most likely slow down to a crawl, because the masses, the ones that bought the PS2 not just for the games, but also for the DVD player, won't see the point with Blue-Ray. At least not yet, anyway, since DVD is still more than adequate.

[Kronos]

The launch lineup is ok, I would say that probably Devil May Cry (haven't looked at gameplay footage for a few weeks for this though!), GT and Lair I guess are the weaker in terms of visuals.

But fuck me if F1, Motorstorm and Resistance haven't come out as good as I had hoped. And maybe even Lair too. Three games atleast that I WANT to buy at launch, for me that's pretty damned rare regardless of machine I own (and I own them all from SMS to 360 at the minute so I'm not biased)

There will always be a certain type of dominant game style on any non Nintendo system so to say "oh no not another FPS/Racing game" is like saying "oh god not another rear-wheel drive BMW" people bought these consoles for these type of games on average and they know it. It's all about $$$$$$'s

edit....

Anyway is there any solid news on the PS1/PS2 compatability yet? Any official word about if it will be hardware or software based?

[Kemper_Boyd]

More Motorstorm video goodness. Even though it doesn't look like the
BS render target video this game looks pretty damn incredible if you
ask me. Hopefully there's a game in there as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozVmlog2Kvk

[Samus]

I got the chance to see PS3 in action as well last weekend, there were only 4 units in the whole show, but I was there on friday and managed to get in the small booth without a wait.

I was shocked to see that Motor Storm was running at something like 20 fps, and not at all solid, sometimes jerking way too much. The gameplay looked VERY slow too, I'm pretty sure the guy playing it just sucked though, he didn't use any turbo at all. The physics were great and I think this will bring a lot to the gameplay. I just hope they can sort the frame rate issue before it launches, the graphics looked great otherwise.

Resistance (the one level I saw of it) looked very good visually (technically), just a bit samey.

Ridge Racer was Ridge Racer.

Didn't bother to play any of them, there was only one guy before me in the line to Motor Storm, but I have to say that the frame rate really put me off. I do have some vids of these, but they're still on my other camera and I need to take it to a special store to transfer it from tape to digital....

[Bubba]

I was shocked to see that Motor Storm was running at something like 20 fps, and not at all solid, sometimes jerking way too much

*Listens for the distant explosion of what was once OBSAK*

Cheers

Bubba

[gravy]

I was shocked to see that Motor Storm was running at something like 20 fps, and not at all solid, sometimes jerking way too much

*Listens for the distant explosion of what was once OBSAK*

Cheers

Bubba

HAR HAR!

Never mind nobsak

[Marius]

More Motorstorm video goodness. Even though it doesn't look like the
BS render target video this game looks pretty damn incredible if you
ask me. Hopefully there's a game in there as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozVmlog2Kvk

Ooh, pretty! Because of the bad quality of the video, that almost looked real

[Kemper_Boyd]

More Motorstorm video goodness. Even though it doesn't look like the
BS render target video this game looks pretty damn incredible if you
ask me. Hopefully there's a game in there as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozVmlog2Kvk

Ooh, pretty! Because of the bad quality of the video, that almost looked real

In the HD videos there's some very nice lighting and texturing but probably
nothing better than say PGR3. I do like the look of the 'physics' in general,
there's one clip I saw where a motorbike is hit by what appears to be a
bin lorry, it looked very realistic for something running in real time.

It's a shame if the framerate's all over the place.