Xbox 360 Elite question

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:13 pm 0

Louis G wrote:
Deckard wrote:
Sickboy wrote:What's broken? Sorry. Can't be arsed to read through...

I'm lucky because I got a free Elite and it's purely a convenience thing - freeing up the component input means I can have both 360 and Wii jacked in at the same time.
You and me baby - got my thor hdmi/optical audio splitter now so everything is on one AV channel on my Bravia bar the Wii thru component. Waiting for some hardware competency from MS has driven me nuts already so getting one tomorrow and if I have to wait a month at some later point when they finally get round to sorting this whole debacle out then so be it.
Point me in the right direction of the Thor hdmi/optical splitter mate?
Does it handle hdmi 3.1?

Louis

Sorry didnt read this at the time - thor came from http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcab ... witch.html

cant seem to find any gump about what hdmi it supports but its running my apple tv, xbox and sky hd like a dream

StarshipUK · Post by **StarshipUK** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:31 pm 0

StarshipUK wrote:It looks like HMV Online Are Selling Them For Â£299.99 + 2 Free Games + Free Delivery:
http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProd ... sku=638896

But should I wait or get one now? Are these new ones gonna be as unreliable as the unreliable ones? Or are there any better deals out there? Hmmmm.....

Just to let everyone know (if anyone is interested?) I finally got a XBox 360 Elite from a Virgin Megastore with Stuntman Ignition, Forza 2 and a wireless controller for Â£229.

It was originally Â£333, but I got 10% discount for using my Virgin Credit Card to buy it, and used Â£70 of Virgin Vouchers I got for free by cashing in all my collected members-shop points from my Virgin Credit Card.

Currently I am just buying a few more selected games for it from Ebay which seems much cheaper than the second hand games in the high street computer game shops, which seem extremely overpriced. So far I have got the following from Ebay:
Gears of War - Â£18.50
Project Gotham Racing 3 + live Arcade Â£7.69
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 - Â£12.50
XBox Live Gold UK 1 Year Membership - Â£30.00

I like E-Bay! I can't imagine why people pay so much for second hand games from those high street stores!

I now just need to get a Wii from a Virgin Megastore with my virgin credit card and it's 10% discount before its too late... I'm hoping it's not too late already!

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:01 pm 0

Eek. I'm getting a greyed-out 1080p option on my Panasonic plasma. HDMI cable all jacked in. What's that all about, then?

Loada · Post by **Loada** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:34 pm 0

Does it support 1080p?

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:56 pm 0

Loada wrote:Does it support 1080p?

Umm, it should do, shouldn't it?

Misfit · Post by **Misfit** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:57 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:
Loada wrote:Does it support 1080p?
Umm, it should do, shouldn't it?

Not necessarily.

Unless you bought a set at a premium stating it did 1080p then it is likely the highest setting you will have is 1080i as that is the norm for most TVs out there.

TT · Post by TT » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:17 pm 0

1080p does display on my Panasonic plasma via the 360, although it is only 1080i display.

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:36 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:
Loada wrote:Does it support 1080p?
Umm, it should do, shouldn't it?

Is your telly "HD Ready" or "Full HD"?

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:47 pm 0

TT wrote:1080p does display on my Panasonic plasma via the 360, although it is only 1080i display.

I don't understand that.

What's the difference, anyway?

I only wanted it 'cos it's, like, the highest option and I've got a high-def telly and a HDMI-connected 360...

TT · Post by TT » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:55 pm 0

Set it as high as you can and see what's displayed on the telly.

If it doesn't like 1080p, go with 1080i.

What does it all mean? Buggered if I know.

Someone clever will be along in a minute to explain. Although this goes into some detail:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080i#1080i_vs_1080p

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:58 pm 0

TT wrote:Set it as high as you can and see what's displayed on the telly.

If it doesn't like 1080p, go with 1080i.

Nonono, if it doesn't do 1080p go with 768p, anything with i at the end is rubbish.

TT · Post by TT » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:00 pm 0

Explain how 1080i looks better on my telly than 720p then mister hmmm?

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:09 pm 0

Well I can't go into deep technicals but i == interlace.

For every frame interlace draws one half of the frame (all oddlines) waits a bit, then draws the other half (all even lines)

So for 1080i, it'll draw 540 vertical pixels of image, then very fast draw the next 540 pixels, it does it at such a rate as it tricks ur eyes into seeing 1080 pixels, you may notice a slight flicker.

Actual resolution there is only really 540 pixels.

Progressive draws the whole frame at once from start to finish, 768 real vertical pixels.

I *think* for static images an "i" resolution will probably be ok.

For moving images you want a "p" though, apparent increase in resolution doesn;t come free, you're basically paying for it in slower refresh, as I say on static image it'll probably be ok but on fast moving stuff you'll probably see tearing as whatever it is that's moving isn't drawn correctly.

hang on I'll see if I can dig out an example pic.

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:12 pm 0

Here ya go :

Tearing.

You can see all the odd number lines have been drawn, then after that the even ones resulting in a lined effect on fast moving stuff.

Though I guess modern TVs might have stuff in to compensate but if a modern HDTV is having to compensate it's post-processing the image meaning a delay in image display, probably then resulting in a few extra milliseconds lag between you pressing your joypad button and the telly displaying the postprocessed image from your 360.

rowan · Post by **rowan** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:17 pm 0

Where does 768 come from?