The Dr Who thread

Ollie · Post by **Ollie** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:30 pm 0

goatboy wrote:Rose and her family were there to be our link to the Doctor's adventures - we don't need them now, and it isn't Doctor Who and Rose, it's just him

Ooh, just had another thought, with Rose gone, there's considerably less call for him to be hanging around on Earth nearly every bloody week (say I hopefully, but not particularly optimistically...)

subzero · Post by **subzero** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:32 pm 0

Only episode of the series ive managed to see, but what an episode!!!

But what the bloody hell was catherine tate doing in a wedding dress at the end?????????????????????????????????

Col · Post by **Col** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:50 pm 0

Jedburgh wrote:
HGFB wrote:Interesting though. How does a woman in her wedding dress appear on a time ship orbiting a supernova god knows how many light years away from Earth?

I can't wait.
Plus it yanks the show away from a Christmas special entitled "Doctor Who Mopes Around For An Hour Feeling Sorry For Himself."

I think we'll still see a bit of that in the Christmas special. 'THe Runaway bride' probably having similarities to Rose or something?

arron · Post by **arron** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:14 pm 0

Jedburgh wrote:
HGFB wrote:Interesting though. How does a woman in her wedding dress appear on a time ship orbiting a supernova god knows how many light years away from Earth?

I can't wait.
Plus it yanks the show away from a Christmas special entitled "Doctor Who Mopes Around For An Hour Feeling Sorry For Himself."

Oh, that would work so well. Sitting on the floor of the TARDIS all alone, surrounded with empty bottles of cheap whisky, flashing mac covered in ectoplasm..and then he decides to do a "Kurt Cobain" with some antique shotgun he's got lying around the TARDIS..

That would make Christmas afternoon a bit more lively..

xav · Post by **xav** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:31 pm 0

arron wrote:
Jedburgh wrote:
HGFB wrote:Interesting though. How does a woman in her wedding dress appear on a time ship orbiting a supernova god knows how many light years away from Earth?

I can't wait.
Plus it yanks the show away from a Christmas special entitled "Doctor Who Mopes Around For An Hour Feeling Sorry For Himself."
Oh, that would work so well. Sitting on the floor of the TARDIS all alone, surrounded with empty bottles of cheap whisky, flashing mac covered in ectoplasm..and then he decides to do a "Kurt Cobain" with some antique shotgun he's got lying around the TARDIS..

That would make Christmas afternoon a bit more lively..

Sounds like every other Eastenders Christmas Special to me

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:49 pm 0

AAARGHHH no torrent on isohunt, UKnova or mininova yet.

This is torture. Should be against the Geneva convention!

Must. Stay. Out. Of. Thread.

Ollie · Post by **Ollie** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:03 pm 0

DutchLlama wrote:AAARGHHH no torrent on isohunt, UKnova or mininova yet.

Have another look; it's on mininova (and isohunt) now.

Matrixxx · Post by **Matrixxx** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:47 pm 0

Oh, and why were only daleks and no cybermen flying past them into the void?

I wondered that too... Somehow I don't think it's the last we see of Rose Tyler though. They spent all season saying shit was impossible, yet it was happening, the doc COULD be wrong this one, last, time.

Kelloggs · Post by **Kelloggs** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:58 pm 0

Matrixxx wrote:Somehow I don't think it's the last we see of Rose Tyler though. They spent all season saying shit was impossible, yet it was happening, the doc COULD be wrong this one, last, time.

I don't know on this score; they would need to find a (necessarily non-destructive) way of travelling between universes on demand, which has never been shown to be possible. They can do it destructively, but only if a Voidship goes first. (Mind you, "our" Torchwood now has the only known example... do you think the Daleks left the keys in the ignition?)

Pragmatically, of course, you're into the realms of contract negotiations there, and then it's anyone's guess...

offyoutoddle · Post by **offyoutoddle** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:08 am 0

Have to say I rather enjoyed that.

Daleks and Cybermen, very amusing. Not so happy about the Daleks twatting Cybermen so easy though, expected them to prove a little tougher than that.

And Finally, rid of Billy.

Yes, I did enjoy this episode very much. Shame its such a wait now. Here's to season 3 - note to RTD - no more veiled love affairs with assistants, particularly not ones with woefully inadequate acting skills please.

Matrixxx · Post by **Matrixxx** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:14 am 0

Kelloggs wrote:
Matrixxx wrote:Somehow I don't think it's the last we see of Rose Tyler though. They spent all season saying shit was impossible, yet it was happening, the doc COULD be wrong this one, last, time.
I don't know on this score; they would need to find a (necessarily non-destructive) way of travelling between universes on demand, which has never been shown to be possible. They can do it destructively, but only if a Voidship goes first. (Mind you, "our" Torchwood now has the only known example... do you think the Daleks left the keys in the ignition?)

Pragmatically, of course, you're into the realms of contract negotiations there, and then it's anyone's guess...

I recon the voidship would have been sucked through too due to being saturated for many years in "void stuff". As for "hopping from one reality to the next" the doc said that was a regular and easy thing while the timelords were around, course, all thats gone now and the ability with it. So maybe theres some kind of supertardis design ? waiting to be re-discovered maybe ? by the doc ? maybe find some timelords living inside it in the same way as the daleks used the genesis arc / prison ship. They could even be IN the void - outside time and space ! thus the doc wouldnt know they were there, no one would. Either way, voids and rose aside, I recon there will be time for proper closure in a later series.

Ok, question time, WHO should be the next WHO when Tennant's creation regenerates ? Which actor would make a GOOD timelord ?

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:30 am 0

Well, I'd have said Simon Pegg and you know how much they like to bring actors back...

Harlequin · Post by **Harlequin** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:39 am 0

Col wrote:Fucking hell, what an amazing episode, and one Dalek survives! (The Black one!)

ISTM that the Supreme Dalek gave a general temporal shift order before disappearing

Ollie wrote:One big problem with it AFAIAC: how the hell did Pete Tyler know to pop through at precisely that moment in order to catch Rose?

Because he could faintly see her across the voidhole? Because they share DNA? Because he panicked at the last moment (that at which the portal was starting to seal up)?

Ollie wrote:
Driller wrote:Wonder if the escaping Dalek is the one that Van Statten acquires for his collection?
Crossed my mind, but nope: wrong colour. Also irritating in that it somehow wasn't being sucked in along with the rest of them when it did that. Again, though, a minor annoyance as it wasn't a gaping plot hole.

We need Daleks back some day, don't we?

It might have been better if we'd panned away from the DS then heard it give the order amongst the chaos but that would probably have been an unjustified use of budget.

Ollie wrote:
Matrixxx wrote:I'm wondering what they will do about the converted cybermen that have never travelled the void, or the fmale leader of torchwood who still has her voice and mental acuity in place inside the tin !
I think we have to assume that their cyber-bodies, or at any rate most of the parts used to assemble them from, had been brought through the void and therefore got sucked back in.

This is not, of course, necessarily the case

Viscount Charles wrote:Seriously, I think it's time to "retire" the Cybermen and the Daleks for at least a couple of series. They both work best when they are allowed their mystique - something that is destroyed by over-familiarity.

I agree that they should be used sparingly. I'd suggest neither next year and perhaps one of the two groups in Season Four but there are licensing issues to consider.

offyoutoddle wrote:Yes, I did enjoy this episode very much. Shame its such a wait now. Here's to season 3 - note to RTD - no more veiled love affairs with assistants, particularly not ones with woefully inadequate acting skills please.

Are you referring to Ms Piper? I thought that her performance tonight was every bit as good as we had from Eccleston.

Matrixxx wrote:Ok, question time, WHO should be the next WHO when Tennant's creation regenerates ? Which actor would make a GOOD timelord ?

Me!

I'm almost the same age as Eccleston. I doubt, however, that I'd pass The Davies's attractiveness criteria

H.
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Kronos · Post by **Kronos** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:44 am 0

Hmmm while we're talking about a new series, is there any reason why The Master can't be in any of these new series?

Also is Davros definately dead?

I just haven't seen enough of the old series to know if these are silly questions sorry, but I know that bringing back a serious single strong character as the Doctor's arch enemy would be really great

Driller · Post by **Driller** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:18 am 0

Old_but_still_a_kid wrote:Hmmm while we're talking about a new series, is there any reason why The Master can't be in any of these new series?

Also is Davros definately dead?

I just haven't seen enough of the old series to know if these are silly questions sorry, but I know that bringing back a serious single strong character as the Doctor's arch enemy would be really great

Well, allegedly ALL the Timelords are dead so the Master does fall into that category. But .....

*

Davros? I thought two things about the Genesis Ark:

1. The other Hand of Omega (IIRC there were two)
2. Davros

The maniacal fuckwit is probably dead but see * above