Fool me, this is real good shit ! [the VR thread]

[Misfit]

Giles, why don't you just order one from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oculus-301-002 ... culus+rift

Because it's not out for retail sales for two weeks?

[gilesgoat]

Giles, why don't you just order one from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oculus-301-002 ... culus+rift

Because it's not out for retail sales for two weeks?

Yes the idea was to have it "with sufficient time" so I was able to continue to work/test with the SW and see how it goes, but sounds like a this point it will become the ONLY available option ( and meanwhile I'll continue to work with DK2 that thankfully even if OR says IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED still works ) ...

Do you think we managed to finally buy an OR via their site ?

NO !

And we still don't know what's going on ...

[Misfit]

Have you tried telling them you are a developer with a big PSVR reveal coming up and it would be good if you could show the PC version at the same time?

[gilesgoat]

Have you tried telling them you are a developer with a big PSVR reveal coming up and it would be good if you could show the PC version at the same time?

I am not so sure if I should say so, in fact I am very curious
To see the difference.

So far dk2 pales and is utter crap in comparison with PSVR, I hope
Cv1 is at least par but I doubt yet.

[Dio]

So once you've found out how awful this is, time to email Mark Zuckerberg...?

[pogo]

Via 80lv: VR adoption among Steam users has crashed to a halt

The number of new HTC Vive owners on Steam grew only 0.3 percent in July and was flat in August, according to a survey (via Reddit) of customers that use Valve’s distribution network. The Oculus Rift headset from the Facebook subsidiary saw similar stagnation of 0.3 percent in July and 0.1 percent in August. At this point, only 0.18 percent of Steam users own the Vive and only 0.10 percent own the Rift. And with lethargic sales, both of these high-end head-mounted displays are going to need a lot of help to catch on with audiences.

July and August are important because they were the first months where both HTC and Oculus no longer had supply constraints. Through most of that two-month period, consumers could go online or even drive to a store to pick up one of these units instantly. The problem, however, is that no one is doing that.

They are probably waiting for the PSVR instead.

[Misfit]

They are probably waiting for the PSVR instead.

Or just some good software to come out.

A new kitchen meant I didn't even open my Rift CK1. It became one of our ovens. Once I got over my initial tech lust and played on a friends I decided nothing out yet was worth it to make me jump in now, especially as the Vive went up about £80 around Brexit and hasn't come down. Plus deep down I know there will be a V2 of everything before long that will be better and cost less and the gap can be filled by the PSVR

So despite disagreeing above, I am waiting on the PSVR for a few reasons...

-It's cheaper, so less pain when V2 of everything comes out
-Initial launch lineup does generally seem quite exciting
-Llamasoft will be on it day one
-The few devs I know playing with the PSVR are loving it despite it's lower resolution

[Bod]

Giles, why don't you just order one from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oculus-301-002 ... culus+rift

Because it's not out for retail sales for two weeks?

Yes the idea was to have it "with sufficient time" so I was able to continue to work/test with the SW and see how it goes, but sounds like a this point it will become the ONLY available option ( and meanwhile I'll continue to work with DK2 that thankfully even if OR says IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED still works ) ...

Do you think we managed to finally buy an OR via their site ?

NO !

And we still don't know what's going on ...

Don't think the 'fun' will end there once your rift arrives Giles.

I'm on my 3'rd unit due to various problems.
They still have ongoing issues that are annoying many users like sensor drop out, or controller not registering once certain games are started.

My last rift was returned due to headphones not working correctly.
The turn around is pretty good though once you have persuaded customer services that it's faulty (which takes some patience).

[Whiteball]

Giles, why don't you just order one from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oculus-301-002 ... culus+rift

Because it's not out for retail sales for two weeks?

Yes the idea was to have it "with sufficient time" so I was able to continue to work/test with the SW and see how it goes, but sounds like a this point it will become the ONLY available option ( and meanwhile I'll continue to work with DK2 that thankfully even if OR says IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED still works ) ...

Do you think we managed to finally buy an OR via their site ?

NO !

And we still don't know what's going on ...

Don't think the 'fun' will end there once your rift arrives Giles.

I'm on my 3'rd unit due to various problems.
They still have ongoing issues that are annoying many users like sensor drop out, or controller not registering once certain games are started.

My last rift was returned due to headphones not working correctly.
The turn around is pretty good though once you have persuaded customer services that it's faulty (which takes some patience).

Well the sensor drop out and controller not working have both been proven to be issues created by Microsoft with Windows Updates! They borked their own controller and introduced a bunch of USB problems - One such being that USB ports do not wake up after going to sleep!

[gilesgoat]

The it must be something odd in the SDK as well ( or is the XBONE controller fault ? ) because I've seen sometime "strange things" happening with the controller and DK2 as well.

Sometime I got the "gut feeling" that process (?) that tells you "press A or look here" hangs in background or something, sometime for no reason at all the "press A" does NOT work any more but then when the game starts the button(s) work perfectly.

Other times there and there I saw various glitches when debugging.

Certainly something works a bit odd.

[Whiteball]

Aside from the issues Microsoft have introduced to their own controller (along with other usb issues) currently some games when launched on the Rift CV1 will not respond to the Xbone controller. Unpluging it and then plugging back in while the game is running resolves it. Close that game, launch another and it is not working again until you do the re-plug again. SDK issue apparently.

[Jamesac]

If it's any help, my Rift has worked perfectly since Day 1. Admitted, that was way back in early June, so I haven't had it as long as some, but it does what I ask, when I ask, with no problems running on a Win10 machine. I get that it's not everyone's experience but so far, so good.

[Mqark]

I've had no problems in any way with either the Rift CV1 or the bundled xbone controller.

I do find the store's material design tremendously boring. And the store is lacking content that's on Steam.
As I've said before - demos are a must. I'm not going to spend 50 euros on a game I can't try first.

Odd that (as it's the design trend du jour) they've eschewed a skeuomorphic interface, and yet, googles on - you're presented with a virtual home with rugs and fireplaces. It's either one or the other guys, let's be consistent for the user please.

[zip accident]

Then there are these:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10655/ifa ... al-reality

Going by that story it looks as if cheap is still out of reach.

[gilesgoat]

After MUCH MUCH hassle .. FINALLY the CV1 been shipped ( some days ago ? ) ..

So today, for curiosity I ask Yak "did they give you a tracking number ?" .. "Hum .. yeah .. I think so .. " .. "Have a look just to know where is now .." .. .. ..

.. ..

SWEARWORDS coming from Yak's room ..

"What's going on ?" .. "Look at this !" .. "ACTION REQUIRED, PACKAGE STALLED" ...

So turns out .. the package is already at UPS in Swansea .. VERY GOOD .. BUT .. they DID NOT DELIVER IT .. "because the address is incorrect, MISSING HOUSE NUMBER !" ..

We are in SWANSEA IN WALES and someone does NOT KNOW that MANY HOUSES IN WALES HAVE NO NUMBERS !!!??

Search , google, find a number , phone, call UPS Swansea ..

BLAH BLAH BLAH WAIT MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC ..
MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. "Hello ?" "Yes .. ok this is the problem blah .. " "Sure .. wait a min ""
"HELLO ! HELLO ! HELLO! I CANNOT HEAR YOU ! THERE'S AN ERROR IN THE PHONE CALL !" *CLICK*

.. WTF ... ?

Check the clock .. 4.30 PM ... it's still NOT 5.00 PM !!!

Call again .. BLAH WAIT MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC ..
MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC ..

"Hello" ( weird voice with EXTREMELY WEIRD foreing accent - could NOT really tell, I suppose Chinese but not sure was so werid ) ...

Try to explain, I can catch 70% of what that guy ? girl ? what else ? was talking ... phone quite shit as well ..

Ah is your addres "BUINGWURRRUNDUM ?" ...

Erm .. hurm .. erm .. ok .. ( patience , patience ) ... 20 mins to explain "there's NO HOUSE NUMBER, PUT ANY NUMBER YOU WANT, HERE HOUSES HAVE NO NUMBER .. "

Finally we get somewhere "OK the address is correct as it is " but please give me your phone number too ( ok that's better, they'll phone to ask where to come ) ..

"Ok let me get in touch with delivery so I can tell them a message ... " ...

MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC .. MUSIC ..

Finally in the end "they sent a message to the delivery" to confirm that "the address is really correct as it is" ..

I wonder IF :

1. someone was late and "oh missing the house number, I have an excuse for, can't be arsed to deliver now" ( can NOT believe that someone working around Swansea DOES NOT KNOW that MANY Welsh houses have no street numbers - or even street names ).

2. the first call was in UK, saw was around 4.30 PM fri, faked the "broken line"

3. the second call ( maybe shift change ? ) went to some asiatic center dunno in what part of the world

4. the (?) the answered me was in some far foreing place and was working on a PC

5. (4) literally sent a message to someone in Swansea from a foreing country

... really .. surreal ...

Fingers crossed it will work, the (?) tried and did his best but BOYS trying to understand talk with (?) was QUITE AN ADVENTURE