Fool me, this is real good shit ! [the VR thread]

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:lol:

Thanks, I'm convinced!

The recommended Anker cable is a solid sheath but there's a popular AmazonBasics cable which is braided. I have a braided cable that I was using for the Go (which is currently acting as a dust collector) and do prefer the "feel" and flexibility of those.
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I bought the solid-sheaved Truncated W one on the strength of the recommendation on the Oculus site. I have no basis for comparison for PC VR but it seems to work well.
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"Truncated W" took me a moment :lol:

Apparently one by Vokoo is good, £20 and with a right angle connector
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Cloudane wrote::lol:

Thanks, I'm convinced!

The recommended Anker cable is a solid sheath but there's a popular AmazonBasics cable which is braided. I have a braided cable that I was using for the Go (which is currently acting as a dust collector) and do prefer the "feel" and flexibility of those.
Sad news, official from Oculus, in case you don't know .. Go is officially discontinued/unsupported, no further development is planned for it :/

The reason they do to me 'sound a bit weird', it's basically "because we think now everything should be/have 6FOD or nothing".
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Not a massive surprise. The Go really, to be honest, has NOT aged well and it's only like.. 2 years old? It's a rapidly moving technology at the moment, so things will go obsolete pretty quickly. Even after having used the Quest1, the CV1 hasn't aged well either with those external sensors and lower res.

It's still fine for watching movies and youtube videos in a virtual cinema, and some of the more casual games that only need the basic controller and it's not like it's been disabled altogether :)

Of course, I. hope they're not going to be obsoleting them after a couple of years as a long term habit. It's bad enough with mobile phones. But it is kind of whizzing along at the moment.


Incidentally, I joined a group of friends-of-a-friend in VRchat last night in a virtual cinema sort of thing. If real cinemas are screwed, at least we have this - it's really good! Just like a real one, except if someone is being disruptive you can mute them or block their avatar or block them completely. Except it was really late and at one point I woke up to a couple of guys leaning over me (ooer) like "hey how did the snooze go, you were like 'snooooore'" :lol:
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Cloudane wrote:It's still fine for watching movies and youtube videos in a virtual cinema, and some of the more casual games that only need the basic controller …
And for watching 360°/180° immersive videos, which is my main use for it.
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The morning start I just got a "final warning" from Oculus that I won't be able any more to use "social features" and new things because I chosen NOT to use Facebook, and looks like from January 2021 I won't be able to use Oculus at all ?

I'll really have to start looking into some new VR thing ...
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Cloudane wrote:Not a massive surprise. The Go really, to be honest, has NOT aged well and it's only like.. 2 years old? It's a rapidly moving technology at the moment, so things will go obsolete pretty quickly. Even after having used the Quest1, the CV1 hasn't aged well either with those external sensors and lower res.
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I AM NOT that smiling LOL about all this, after all this is tech that does not cost "peanuts" I mean even CV1 for many things I still really useable, actually DK2 visually speaking is even better than CV1 and its damned "God's rays" :x

For a developer a tech so rapidly changing and I repeat still NOT costing really peanuts it's quite a curse and I am thinking at all the waste of "good tech that can still have a use" :?

I think tech should last at least 5 years to give "a bit of time to go on with things" after that you won't pretend it to be "so supported" but if it still works I would not trash it away.

It's a bit of a shame that "2 years" is considered "A lot of time" because it isn't.
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Totally see your frustration particularly as a developer and I think/hope that it's only this early on. Early adoption is expensive :(
Not saying it's right or that I don't sympathise, it's just the nature of the beast. Rapid moving technology, next version becomes "very noticeably way better" and everyone buys that, and those who want to stick with the old one become something of a minority.

I have that pain with my car. "Hey I could use a few more places to charge, would you mind maybe not dropping type 2 from rapids everywhere?" / "nope, we all went CCS, do keep up!" / "But.. new cars are kind of expensive and I don't have 5 figure budgets to splash out every couple of years..." / "fast moving technology. Tough. Get a better job."

Hopefully only this first gen goes obsolete so quickly. Take also something like the original iPad, I was just as annoyed when that became "basically useless" after maybe 2 years if that. It was an expensive bit of kit! And this is one of those times when I kind of "divorced" Apple in a huff. But then the iPad 2 came out and was supported for what seemed like forever, and is still relatively usable today. Hopefully we'll see a similar pattern. It's "that short lived first gen of stuff"
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To be fair, just been having another go at the Go (heh) and I was probably being a bit harsh saying it's not aged well. It's a shame about the basic controller as it's REALLY painfully limiting, but the headset itself is good, clearer than the CV1 even.

Having heard all sorts of "oh the Q2 is bad because LCD black levels and ghosting, 72Hz out of the box, FOV at 68mm, latency, yada yada" I took a critical eye to the CV1 and Go and can't really fault them much. Even the "screen door" effect on the CV1 doesn't really bother me. So the Q2 can only be an upgrade. Some people grumble about the compression, resolution and latency on the Link but these might also be overly fussy people. Anyway, soon find out :)

Funny thing is with the Go, I tried some intense experiences and was fine (which made me more comfortable about the 72Hz, as who knows if 90Hz will genuinely be enabled some day) but the main menu made me mildly dizzy. I think it seems to operate at a low framerate.
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Okay, I honestly was not prepared for how TERRIBLE the VR experience is with LCDs. What was the industry thinking?! Everything's like looking through a steamed up window. It's absolutely dreadful and I'm honestly getting some pretty strong buyers remorse now.
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Cloudane wrote:Okay, I honestly was not prepared for how TERRIBLE the VR experience is with LCDs. What was the industry thinking?! Everything's like looking through a steamed up window. It's absolutely dreadful and I'm honestly getting some pretty strong buyers remorse now.
DK2 is OLED, DK2 has NO God's rays, DK2 has REAL BLACK and VIBRANT COLOURS, D2K overall looks better .. .. see what I mean with "stuff ditched too soon" ???
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Yeah I see what you mean. I think I'll end up keeping the Rift CV1 as it's just so much more immersive, even with the "screen door" everyone goes on about. As for the Q2... not sure.... I got it from Amazon so may take advantage of their generous returns policy or might keep it for casual wireless Beat Saber etc. But if the Go is anything to go by, it might just sit there unused if I do that.
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Another annoyance:

All the stuff I bought for the Go? Nope! Buy it again!
All the stuff I bought for desktop Rift? Nope! Buy it again!
Suddenly a £299 device becomes a £500 device
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Cloudane wrote:Another annoyance:

All the stuff I bought for the Go? Nope! Buy it again!
All the stuff I bought for desktop Rift? Nope! Buy it again!
Suddenly a £299 device becomes a £500 device
THAT IS INSANE !
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