Football: WORLD CUP 06 and close season/transfer discussion.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:38 pm 0

Throwing a half-eaten cheeseburger at Neville - genius

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:53 pm 0

Zen-Chan wrote:Throwing a half-eaten cheeseburger at Neville - genius

I liked the lilting poetic majesty of:

(To the tune of London Bridge Is Falling Down)

Gary Neville shags his mum
Shags his mum
Shags his mum

Gary Neville shags his mum
UP THE SHITTER!

Rev. Stuart Campbell · Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:16 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:
Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:Mind you, it's not easy to play flowing football when the ref lets Liverpool away with endless cynical fouling whenever a move starts to get going.
Oh, do shit off. Utd were doing just the same.

Like bollocks they were. Ronaldo got fouled six times by six different players in the first seven or eight minutes. If the ref had shown some warranted cards - especially for Kewell's ridiculous assault on Neville - to show that he wouldn't be standing for it, there might have been a different game.

None of that should detract from the facts that United were shit, Liverpool were clearly the better side and Gigg's foul on Kewell was inside the box. But, y'know, piss off if you're going to deny that Liverpool's game was based on spoiling fouls, once it was obvious the ref wasn't going to card them for it. They'll lap up patient passing play all day long, the only way to attack Liverpool is to make them turn and run, and if you get no protection from the ref when you try that, you haven't got much hope.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:59 pm 0

Smith apparently suffered a severe leg break AND a dislocated ankle:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 727816.stm

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:12 pm 0

Full credit to the scousers for the first half.

The way that the fans reacted to Smiths injury (despite kicking the ball away every time it went out) was excellent.

No whinges from this corner - it was a fair result.

rockwaldo · Post by **rockwaldo** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:03 pm 0

Zen-Chan wrote:Throwing a half-eaten cheeseburger at Neville - genius

Looked like a pie to me i thought

Geenius · Post by **Geenius** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:07 pm 0

rockwaldo wrote:
Zen-Chan wrote:Throwing a half-eaten cheeseburger at Neville - genius
Looked like a pie to me i thought

'twas a burger

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:09 pm 0

I would say that it was a quarter eaten - maybe a third.

Some poor bloody scouser will be hungry for a week now

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:10 pm 0

And Forest win away for the first time in bloody ages. Amazing how players seem to respond when the boss gets the boot.

Col · Post by **Col** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:26 pm 0

Flabio wrote:Forest win away

GET IN!!!

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:00 pm 0

Shit.

We had a great first half, but without managing to score a goal.

Now I think we're going out.

Ah well, at least it'll get any stupid dreaming out of our heads if we do!

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:14 pm 0

Ahem.

(for now!)

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:33 pm 0

Flabio wrote:And Forest win away for the first time in bloody ages. Amazing how players seem to respond when the boss gets the boot.

Yes. Gary Megson's Forest win away. The only thing that was different from a Meggo team was a stable formation and the willingness of the players to follow the 'keep it on the deck, play to feet' instruction (which nearly cost us a goal halfway through the second half with Rune Pederfile rolling it out to the opposition). But apparently all the players who usually go missing had rockets up their arses today. Playing to impress the next manager or something, was it? Or were they able to concentrate their little brainey-waineys on the kicking game because the nasty man wasn't shouting at them for a change?

They didn't do anything today they shouldn't have been able to do all season - more to the point we were lucky with a few things where usually we've been bloody unlucky. I am chuffed as hell to finally win away, very glad to see the team performing within about 40% of what we are capable of (Forest have a best first eleven that should shred it's way through most of the championship) and pleased as punch for Barlow and MacParland, but Megson deserves the lions share of the credit for this win. He's only been gone 2 days and this upturn in fortunes can more easily be explained by saying 'post manager honeymoon period' than 'Frank Barlow tactical genius'. Nevertheless, a good win.

The single most important question still remains unanswered though... can we be consistent? Unless the players have the cajones to make the answer yes, today is worth fuck all. I'll be waiting to see.

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:06 pm 0

Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:
Sickboy wrote:
Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:Mind you, it's not easy to play flowing football when the ref lets Liverpool away with endless cynical fouling whenever a move starts to get going.
Oh, do shit off. Utd were doing just the same.
Like bollocks they were. Ronaldo got fouled six times by six different players in the first seven or eight minutes. If the ref had shown some warranted cards - especially for Kewell's ridiculous assault on Neville - to show that he wouldn't be standing for it, there might have been a different game.

None of that should detract from the facts that United were shit, Liverpool were clearly the better side and Gigg's foul on Kewell was inside the box. But, y'know, piss off if you're going to deny that Liverpool's game was based on spoiling fouls, once it was obvious the ref wasn't going to card them for it. They'll lap up patient passing play all day long, the only way to attack Liverpool is to make them turn and run, and if you get no protection from the ref when you try that, you haven't got much hope.

Sigh. Stu, prettyplease just leave us all in peace and find your own football team to actively support instead of continuing this pathological, Liverpool glory-pissing twattery.

There were niggly fouls on both sides and yeah, Ronaldo did get kicked about a bit. (I hate playing the your-fouls-were-worse-than-ours game, but since you mentioned it, Kewell's crazed barge on Neville was a bit of a head-rush compared to Gigg's nasty, from-behind machete-ing of Kewell).

To claim that Liverpool's whole game-plan - at home - was based on fouling Utd out of the game is laughable. Utd seemed incapable of retaining any possession in the first half - due to a combination of shite passing and Liverpool pressing (with a perfectly decent passing game of their own). The Utd midfield, as texted to me at half-time by a Man Utd fan mate, barely registered - alongside Gerrard's thundering runs and surgical long-balls, Sissoko's tenacity and Hamann's cultured calm.

The ref did show plenty of warranted cards - after a smart and sane period of recognising the game for the gritty grudge match it always starts out as for the first twenty minutes or so.

Rev. Stuart Campbell · Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:18 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:Liverpool glory-pissing twattery.

The definition of "glory" seems to have been somewhat devalued. Another 1-0 to the mighty Pool...

Dude, chill out, and try not to suffer that trademark humourless Scouse word-blindness over phrases like "clearly the better team". You won, deservedly. Why always be such a sour-faced grump about it?