Ta much, you're a star. Off to do some googling.grue wrote:New MarioTetra Elemental wrote:Can somebody do a quick recap on why Nintendo have "won" E3 or whatever?
I know about the Wii controller etc but I'm only getting bits and pieces here and there about the games. A list will do. Cheers.
Zelda Wii controlled
Metroid: Corruption
Katana wielding Red Steel
Excite Truck lovelines
27 playable games
Miyamoto jumping and directing an Orchestra
Wiiiiiiii
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Start here: http://wii.nintendo.com/Tetra Elemental wrote:
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Presumably you're not able to view the streaming Wii footage on gamespot?Tetra Elemental wrote:Ta much, you're a star. Off to do some googling.grue wrote:New MarioTetra Elemental wrote:Can somebody do a quick recap on why Nintendo have "won" E3 or whatever?
I know about the Wii controller etc but I'm only getting bits and pieces here and there about the games. A list will do. Cheers.
Zelda Wii controlled
Metroid: Corruption
Katana wielding Red Steel
Excite Truck lovelines
27 playable games
Miyamoto jumping and directing an Orchestra
Wiiiiiiii
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Trouble is if they did that it'd be seen as the same old stuff. Even if theDave wrote:Who here thinks they should have just kept the GameCube going along, released the new controller for it, and presto? Most of the games look pretty much like DC/GC games IMO.
new machine isn't a huge jump from the GameCube it is at least new.
I think you're right. Upping to a new type of console kind of kicks developers in the butt to re-think the way they make games.Kemper_Boyd wrote:Trouble is if they did that it'd be seen as the same old stuff. Even if theDave wrote:Who here thinks they should have just kept the GameCube going along, released the new controller for it, and presto? Most of the games look pretty much like DC/GC games IMO.
new machine isn't a huge jump from the GameCube it is at least new.
Just because the graphical wank factor isn't much higher than the cube doesn't mean the rev is just a cube + Wiimote. Off the top of my head:
. built-in bluetooth for controller wireless
. built-in 802.11 for broadband wireless
. always on & connected with power save
. virtual console
. built-in flash ram storage
. smaller/quieter/sexier
. Full-size DVD drive
. USB port
. SD card port
. Expanded developer API to support new services
. built-in bluetooth for controller wireless
. built-in 802.11 for broadband wireless
. always on & connected with power save
. virtual console
. built-in flash ram storage
. smaller/quieter/sexier
. Full-size DVD drive
. USB port
. SD card port
. Expanded developer API to support new services
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I was all over Nintendo at the start of E3 last year, and then they were just "Yeah, we're going to, you know, make some games and stuff, I guess. Oh, and make another version of the GBA."
While Microsoft were all "OMFG NEW STUFF! NETWORK GAMING! BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY! ETC!"
Which really turned me onto the 360 a lot. But it hasn't quite delivered everything I want yet (or rather, it almost has, but at about £100 more than I'm willing to pay).
But this year, Nintendo are all "OMFG NEW STUFF! NETWORK GAMING! BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY! ETC!"
While Microsoft are all "Yeah, we're going to make some more games and stuff, I guess. Oh, and release some new peripherals, so people can call you a fag to your face."
There are still some blanks that need to be filled about the Wii, just like there were with the 360, but considering it's probably going to be a lot cheaper, and the stuff with the controller does look fascinating and excellent, and they've got some awesome looking games (in my opinion) that aren't just "Urban Warfare FPS 12", I'd probably go so far as to slap down some notes for a pre-order this summer.
What I really want from the Wii is just being able to play co-op games over the net with my friends. Four Swords, Crystal Chronicles, and the virtual console stuff like Secret of Mana. If zsnes can do netplay with your friends over the interwebs, I don't see why the Wii shouldn't be able to. But, you know... no mention of it in the presentation. BLANKS TO BE FILLED!
Edit: Also, a lot of my friends who were watching it with me were also in the "TAKE MY MONEY NOW" camp with me, which is another reason to want one. And almost all my friends have PS2s and nothing else - I'm the only person in my circle of high school friends who owns a Cube. So I think they've done something right.
While Microsoft were all "OMFG NEW STUFF! NETWORK GAMING! BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY! ETC!"
Which really turned me onto the 360 a lot. But it hasn't quite delivered everything I want yet (or rather, it almost has, but at about £100 more than I'm willing to pay).
But this year, Nintendo are all "OMFG NEW STUFF! NETWORK GAMING! BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY! ETC!"
While Microsoft are all "Yeah, we're going to make some more games and stuff, I guess. Oh, and release some new peripherals, so people can call you a fag to your face."
There are still some blanks that need to be filled about the Wii, just like there were with the 360, but considering it's probably going to be a lot cheaper, and the stuff with the controller does look fascinating and excellent, and they've got some awesome looking games (in my opinion) that aren't just "Urban Warfare FPS 12", I'd probably go so far as to slap down some notes for a pre-order this summer.
What I really want from the Wii is just being able to play co-op games over the net with my friends. Four Swords, Crystal Chronicles, and the virtual console stuff like Secret of Mana. If zsnes can do netplay with your friends over the interwebs, I don't see why the Wii shouldn't be able to. But, you know... no mention of it in the presentation. BLANKS TO BE FILLED!
Edit: Also, a lot of my friends who were watching it with me were also in the "TAKE MY MONEY NOW" camp with me, which is another reason to want one. And almost all my friends have PS2s and nothing else - I'm the only person in my circle of high school friends who owns a Cube. So I think they've done something right.
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The Ninty conference did look nice. Shigsy is always a show stealer, though. 
Red Steel did look a bit clunky, but it still shows quite a lot of promise. Not too bad looking, either. The hands-on IGN got with Red Steel seemed pretty positive too, although they did say the pointer is a little too jittery.
There wasn't much shown of Metroid Corruption, but what was shown looked rather spiffy. Again, the IGN hands-on was very positive, aside from a few jump/aiming glitches which popped up.
The tennis game did look very basic, and it was hard to see how the movements they were making affected the way the characters moved, but it is a deliberately simple affair without any particularly complex animations and they were playing in an extremely exaggerated fashion, which could go some way to explain that.
Zelda looks absolutely stunning. I cannot wait to get my hands on it! I wouldn't say the remote aiming looked particularly problematic. The only bit I saw the guy struggle with was when someone was shooting arrows at him while he was trying to aim. Nothing I saw in it looked anywhere as slow or awkward as trying to do that kind of aiming on an normal a-log stick.
Overall, it was a great show for Nintendo. The controller looks like it works, one or two hiccups notwithstanding; it'll be interesting to hear the proper hands-on reports from the show floor.
Red Steel did look a bit clunky, but it still shows quite a lot of promise. Not too bad looking, either. The hands-on IGN got with Red Steel seemed pretty positive too, although they did say the pointer is a little too jittery.
There wasn't much shown of Metroid Corruption, but what was shown looked rather spiffy. Again, the IGN hands-on was very positive, aside from a few jump/aiming glitches which popped up.
The tennis game did look very basic, and it was hard to see how the movements they were making affected the way the characters moved, but it is a deliberately simple affair without any particularly complex animations and they were playing in an extremely exaggerated fashion, which could go some way to explain that.
Zelda looks absolutely stunning. I cannot wait to get my hands on it! I wouldn't say the remote aiming looked particularly problematic. The only bit I saw the guy struggle with was when someone was shooting arrows at him while he was trying to aim. Nothing I saw in it looked anywhere as slow or awkward as trying to do that kind of aiming on an normal a-log stick.
Overall, it was a great show for Nintendo. The controller looks like it works, one or two hiccups notwithstanding; it'll be interesting to hear the proper hands-on reports from the show floor.
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