Clinton won South Carolina last night. This is significant in that it pretty much ends Sander’s hopes of becoming Democratic candidate. Clinton won convincingly especially among Blacks and the poor. Eight years ago SC was a significant win for Obama, when he started to pull ahead on the Black vote. That Clinton is doing the same is symbolic. And the poor are supposed to be Sander’s key constituency.
Problem for him is SC is more typical than New Hampshire where he scored his one win. Right now he is projected to lose a series of states, many with similar demographics; he is only expected to win Vermont where he is from out of the next few states. We will know soon as like the Republicans a large number of states choose their delegates over the next two weeks.
For Clinton it means she can start focussing on beating Trump, who seems to have the Republican race won, so saving her money and moving back to the centre (not that she had to move much left to compete with Sanders). And studying Trump’s policies, arguments and debating style. She must be strong favourite in such a contest, Trump is still the unelectable clown he was at the start of the race. He’s just been allowed to get so far by the dysfunctional nature of the Republican party.
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He’s a former president, so does not formally represent the government. But that only leaves him free to say what those in power in Mexico must be thinking. Fox Business must have thought it very safe getting such an elder statesman on, not realising the anger probably all Mexicans feel. Another former president has been similarly forthright, comparing Trump to Hitler:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/f ... -to-hitler
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/f ... -to-hitler
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And regarding his retweeting of the Mussolini quote Trump apparently said:
Taken from http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35682844"Mussolini was Mussolini... What difference does it make?" Mr Trump said when asked about the retweet on NBC's Meet The Press programme. "It got your attention, didn't it?"
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Oh dear ... Mussolini quotes nowPFVA wrote:And regarding his retweeting of the Mussolini quote Trump apparently said:
Taken from http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35682844"Mussolini was Mussolini... What difference does it make?" Mr Trump said when asked about the retweet on NBC's Meet The Press programme. "It got your attention, didn't it?"
Not sure if that one about the lion/sheep is a Mussolini invention but could be .. it's been a few times also parodied in some movies, I remember a movie by Dino Risi when he said a thing like " .. sheep .. lion .. I don't know .. I am none of both .. what about 100 days like a teddy bear ?" ...
About Mussolini quotes .. everyone ( in Italy ) knows from the history books a few ones ..
One famous was "It's the plough that makes the track but it's the sword that defends it" .. another one was "You can serve your own country even just guarding a barrel of petrol" ..
But I the most INFAMOUS one was "WE, WILL BREAK GREECE'S KIDNEYS !" ...
There's even a Wikipedia entry about it https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezzeremo_le_reni, he was convinced that they would have defeated Greece "in a snap" .. turned out to be one of the most disastrous war actions ever made by Italy, they got SEVERELY beaten and defeated by Greece "won" in the end only thanks to German intervention but with very high life costs.
Anyway if Trump likes to be associated with Mussolini quotes they should remind him Mussolini ended hanged upside down in a public square and they made quite some mess of his corpse ..
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Re: Trump
I wonder if the Republican Party is going to wake up in July after the convention, hungover, confused and a little bit scared. Will they be horrified at finding themselves in bed with a man who, apparently, invites comparisons to Hitler and quotes Mussolini? Will there be an Emperor's New Clothes moment and a schism? Or will they play it straight, pretend that Trump really is a proper presidential candidate. Regardless of his political views, this is, after all, a man with zero days of experience as an elected official.
(Incidentally, I just watched a clip from the White House Correspondents' Dinner in 2011, where Obama - riffing on the birthers, natch - quips that he finds it odd that Michelle Bachmann considers running for president, as he heard she was born in Canada: "Yes, Michelle, this is how it starts." 5 years later and Cruz has had his eligibility questioned over being born in... Canada. Seriously, you couldn't make this shit up if you tried.)
(Incidentally, I just watched a clip from the White House Correspondents' Dinner in 2011, where Obama - riffing on the birthers, natch - quips that he finds it odd that Michelle Bachmann considers running for president, as he heard she was born in Canada: "Yes, Michelle, this is how it starts." 5 years later and Cruz has had his eligibility questioned over being born in... Canada. Seriously, you couldn't make this shit up if you tried.)
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This could be one of those realignments in US politics that happens from time to time. Their two party system is unusually rigid compared to other countries’, but US society changes and evolves over time like anywhere. So change usually happens within parties. The last time was the 1960s when Democrats fell apart over the new deal and civil rights. Republicans took their chance and with their “Southern strategy” became the party of the South, of the ex-Confederate states.
Republicans were in power from 1969 to 1993, interrupted only by four years of Jimmy Carter. It’s only with Bill Clinton that Democrats found a way to win and stay in power, since when both parties have been competitive. Except the Republicans may now be undergoing something like the Democrats 50 years ago: finding they cannot hold the various strands of the party together and so unable to choose strong leaders that represent them all. If so they could be out of power for a long time.
Republicans were in power from 1969 to 1993, interrupted only by four years of Jimmy Carter. It’s only with Bill Clinton that Democrats found a way to win and stay in power, since when both parties have been competitive. Except the Republicans may now be undergoing something like the Democrats 50 years ago: finding they cannot hold the various strands of the party together and so unable to choose strong leaders that represent them all. If so they could be out of power for a long time.
Re: Trump
They already lost this round. I think essentially they will just split - Trump and his supporters either becoming a new party, or they take over the original republicans and a fair amount of the others uncomfortable with him form a new party.
If theres any sort of "supply and demand" in politics, a significant hole is opening up for a right leaning party without Trumps baggage, and that will be filled eventually.
If theres any sort of "supply and demand" in politics, a significant hole is opening up for a right leaning party without Trumps baggage, and that will be filled eventually.
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Re: Trump
I suspect that a significant part of the Republican party are just grateful right now that Trump's unelectable as a president - they'll be able to sort it all out later when he's lost.
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It’s hard to know where the Republican party goes from here. The strains have been showing for a while. Although they managed to win two of the last six presidential elections they won the popular vote only once (Bush v. Gore, the one that ended up at the Supreme Court, had Bush win but with fewer votes than Gore). And things are only getting worse for them demographically – the fastest growing demographic groups are non-white ones which overwhelmingly support Democrats.
Some in the party have recognised this and so tried to push the party to adopt immigration reform. It helps that there is a desperate need for this, and that some of the party’s biggest supporters in business are pro immigration reform. But it has always crashed against the populist, nativist/racist extremists in the party, i.e. the tea party. E.g. Rubio, despite being probably their best hope to defeat Clinton in November, has failed in part because of his role recent immigration reform.
Some in the party have recognised this and so tried to push the party to adopt immigration reform. It helps that there is a desperate need for this, and that some of the party’s biggest supporters in business are pro immigration reform. But it has always crashed against the populist, nativist/racist extremists in the party, i.e. the tea party. E.g. Rubio, despite being probably their best hope to defeat Clinton in November, has failed in part because of his role recent immigration reform.
Re: Trump
Dumbass! Didn't he watch 300?gilesgoat wrote:There's even a Wikipedia entry about it https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezzeremo_le_reni, he was convinced that they would have defeated Greece "in a snap" .. turned out to be one of the most disastrous war actions ever made by Italy, they got SEVERELY beaten and defeated by Greece "won" in the end only thanks to German intervention but with very high life costs.
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The YouTube video is restricted and can't be viewed in the UK.
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."
But don't worry, It's also been uploaded to Facebook video too, where it hasn't been restricted, if you want to see it:
https://www.facebook.com/LastWeekTonigh ... 811693596/
"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."
But don't worry, It's also been uploaded to Facebook video too, where it hasn't been restricted, if you want to see it:
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Re: Trump
Let's see Hitler VS Trump top trumps:
Hitler - Trump
Funny hair or facial hair 2 - 8
Hates a minority (or two) 8 - 8
Populist among the poor 9 - 6
Inflamed rhetoric 9 - 8
Name as a brand 9 - 7
Substance over show 9 - 2
Shiny boots 9 - 0 (not yet)
Private army (SA/SS) 9 - 0 (also not yet)
We have had a few of these idiots in Europe over the last few decades (Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Lenin, Franco and various minor ones), they seem to get popular in times of real financial hardship / lack of future prospects. Maybe it is America's turn now. Good luck.
Hitler - Trump
Funny hair or facial hair 2 - 8
Hates a minority (or two) 8 - 8
Populist among the poor 9 - 6
Inflamed rhetoric 9 - 8
Name as a brand 9 - 7
Substance over show 9 - 2
Shiny boots 9 - 0 (not yet)
Private army (SA/SS) 9 - 0 (also not yet)
We have had a few of these idiots in Europe over the last few decades (Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Lenin, Franco and various minor ones), they seem to get popular in times of real financial hardship / lack of future prospects. Maybe it is America's turn now. Good luck.
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