Trump

[pogo]

a complete nutter is about to get a landslide victory in America

Trump acquiring the Republican nomination would all but guarantee Hillary as POTUS. Extraordinary events notwithstanding... e.g. Sanders becoming the Democrat nominee.

Significant numbers of typically Republican voters just won't vote for Trump on November 8, 2016.

Even if by some miracle Sanders wins the nomination he would be favourite against Trump. Any other Republican could probably win even against Clinton. It would be easy for them to rally around Rubio, Kasich, even Cruz. But Trump is so toxic he will hurt their core vote, drive independents away, and motivate Democrats to come out to stop him.

BTW, today is Super Tuesday, the first day when a large number of states vote and hand out delegates. Up to now it has been single, mostly small states. Up to now no-one has really won anything. By tomorrow Clinton and Trump could have already winning numbers of delegates.

[Absolute_Zero]

Addendum:

Significant numbers of Democrat supporters [and the unaligned] don't much like Hillary either... but given a Trump/Clinton ballot, I'm confident they'll hold their noses and do the right thing.

OTOH, Trump's shtick is mostly political showbiz ... fundamentalist Cruz is scarier to me.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... s-liberal/

Maybe it's all a cunning ploy to destroy the Republican party. If so, it's going rather well at the moment.

I expect snow blowers in Hell before the USA elects a socialist... so imo Sanders is Trump's only hope.

[Darkflame]

Sanders has, paradoxically, some of the same appeal as Trump though. Both are seen as "outsiders" and both are running against the idea of big superpacs influencing politicians.

Also, the whole "anti-socialist" thing could be starting to backfire. By branding everything they dont like as socialist the republicans have arguably lost a bit of the negative weight it was supposed to carry.
Sanders is also very clear to explain (repeatedly) what he exactly means when he calls himself a social democrat - making those that do actually listen clear that the term doesn't really mean all that the other side is saying it means.
(doesn't mean they will support what it actually means either, mind you, but it removes the automatic demonetization somewhat)

[pogo]

I think you underestimate how much the Republicans would attack Sanders. Socialism really is a dirty word in the US, and many of his policies don’t stand up to close examination. Plus they can rightly argue that whatever his policies he has to work with a Republican Congress, making many of his ideas dead on arrival.

Still, in a contest between him and Trump I think Sanders would be favourite. Trump just has so many things going against him. He does not even have the support of most Republican voters, he puts off a lot of the rest. Many will stay home or even vote against him to stop him ruining the party further. Independents are of course repulsed by him, as are Democrats who would be even more motivated to turn out to stop him.

[gumboot]

All but three states (give or take Alaska which isn't done yet) and more delegates than everybody else put together?

FFS America!

I sincerely hope that this is Democrat voters just trying to fuck things up for the Republican party.

[Cloudane]

Scary. Hope and courage or Hate and fear? It's like that Doctor Who episode where you're watching mankind decide whether to kill the moon or not and one by one all the lights go out...

Okay maybe not that bad. Still..

[gravy]

It's like that Doctor Who episode...

You're right, it is exactly like the plot of a badly written and hugely improbable scifi show!

[KlaxonCow]

Drumpf seems like he's out of some time-travel sci-fi, you say?



"Great Scott!! Marty! You left the Sports Almanac in the Delorean!! You've created an alternative 2017 where Biff has become the POTUS!!"

[Darkflame]

Biffs a great fit.
I see some people compare Trump to Lex Luthor, but that gives him vastly too much credit.

[merman]

Biffs a great fit.
I see some people compare Trump to Lex Luthor, but that gives him vastly too much credit.

The writer has confirmed "future Biff" was based on Donald Trump of the mid-Eighties, and he's grown even more obnoxious since...

[pogo]

All but three states (give or take Alaska which isn't done yet) and more delegates than everybody else put together?

It’s not quite as bad as that. He now has little under half of the delegates. Cruz and Rubio, the only ones with a theoretical path to beating him, have more between them.

Theoretical as they still need the other one to drop out. But both have reason to stay in. Cruz has now won three states, second only to Trump, and is also second in the delegate count. Rubio won his first last night and knows he is the only one of the three that the Republican establishment can get behind. Plus next up is Florida, his home state.

Trump doesn’t have an overwhelming lead in delegates as so far states have been allocating them proportionately. But that changes with Florida and a couple of other states in two weeks time, where the winner takes all the delegates. Florida is the big prize and Rubio must hope he can win there and turn it around. But on current polling it looks like Trump will win in Florida, and pull out well ahead of the other two. By which time it might be too late for Cruz or Rubio, even if the other one of them drops out.

[gumboot]

All but three states (give or take Alaska which isn't done yet) and more delegates than everybody else put together?

It’s not quite as bad as that. He now has little under half of the delegates. Cruz and Rubio, the only ones with a theoretical path to beating him, have more between them.

Yeah, last night I think it was showing just Tuesday's results, with Alaska missing (which went to Cruz!) and it looked pretty grim at that point.

Neither of the other two are at all appealing (of course I shouldn't expect them to be), so a raving idiot may be the least worrisome outcome in that sense. But it's an horrific idea that people would vote for him. If they didn't like Republican policy they should be looking at another party, not voting for the clown.

[PFVA]

All but three states (give or take Alaska which isn't done yet) and more delegates than everybody else put together?

FFS America!

I sincerely hope that this is Democrat voters just trying to fuck things up for the Republican party.

I think Russia and specially China must be supporting Trump. He wins and most of the developping world will shift towards China. It's going to be worse than the Bush Administration. All the work Obama has done to restore the image of the US will go down the drain.

[pogo]

Via #NeverTrump: “We don't win anymore. All we do is lose to Mexico and China.”

[Little stoned kiwi]