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RedOktober wrote:How do things fossil up in space?
They don't. Far from the sun they freeze. Fossilisation is a combination of chemical processes. It can't happen if everything is frozen.

If something is as close to the sun as the earth is, if one side constantly faces the sun, then that side will become hot, and the other (to the extent it isn't heated by conduction from the other side), as cold as starlight (which is close to zero Kelvin). If it rotates, then the temperature will be about that of Earth. Even so, the chemical processes require that the object is immersed in water, and that isn't going to happen. In fact, even at Earth temperature, the low pressure would mean that any water present would evaporate, so liquifaction wouldn't happen. Presumably dessication would be so extreme that you'd get almost instant mummification.

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See, Fil, revise your thoughts on those space whales.
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In that case they must have found frozen space whale bones.
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What? Don't get all angry just because you were wrong about space fossilisation.
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Oh dear FIL
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You don't suppose he was wrong about the whales too?
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And the winner is.....

discovery of remains of most recent supernova (100yrs ago)
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Well, colour me disappointed in that case. I was at least hoping for the mote in god's eye :)
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Well thats a bit shit.
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WiteWulf wrote:Well, colour me disappointed in that case. I was at least hoping for the mote in god's eye :)

Is that to keep invaders away from the castle walls?
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Nah, that would be the moat around murcheson's eye ;)
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Hang on, after reading a couple of articles about this recently discovered supernova remnant something is bothering me..

a) It is about 28,000 light years away near the galactic centre

b) We are observing the remnant

c) It is supposedly about 140 years old

So how can we be observing the remnant of an explosion that supposedly occurred 140 years ag..


Oh, hang on.. they mean *observable* 140 years ago, don't they?

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Pics of new Russian "Clipper" future reusable space vehicle, and design including ESA cargo module and soyuz launch stages. Quite an interesting direction, and probably what alot of us thought Orion / Constellation would have looked like.

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Orion is reusable for two flights, not sure about Clipper but I'd assume that is a tile like heat shielding and as such you are probably looking at a dozen plus. The main design flaw with the existing space shuttle is that you carry a very large aircraft to and from space, reducing the scale of that craft to just the crew compartment (plus wings) and putting the cargo in a separate module (like Orion/ Constellation) is a good design choice.

Quite exciting to see this actually, now we have two moon capable vehicles on the drawing boards and in development. :D Russia is expecting a test flight in 2015 and orbital missions in 2018, similar to the Orion/Constellation. Maybe a year or so later at most.

Here is an interesting design - Clipper after being repurposed on-orbit for a Mars mission.
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