The Dr Who thread

[HGFB]

Very interesting vote results on the OG forums this week

5/5 1096
4/5 188
3/5 22
2/5 11
1/5 10

[Bog]

The Doctor makes a really shit human though doesn't he? What a tosser

The Doctor makes a very Human Human.

I think the point here is that any person, without having learned bitterly hard lessons paid for with cash, is quite closed and insensitive.

The Doctor was only the massively compassionate, incredible person that he was because he'd been through Hell itself, 900+ years' worth, and still retained his own core.

Strip that away, and he's "just someone".

It's a shame, but humans do seem to need to have the crap pounded out of them for decades for them to become Decent People.

I know I did. Still am, for that, I'm quite well aware I still have sharp edges to sand down.

[Ollie]

The Doctor makes a really shit human though doesn't he? What a tosser

I did wonder why he gave one of the boys permission to admister a beating on the other one; IIRC, precisely the opposite of what he does in the book.

Also, did anyone else find the choice of hymn at the start interesting? "Let him in constancy follow The Master..."

[HGFB]

Overnight ratings time

1 …. 7.1 (36.3%) …. Doctor Who (19:00) BBC1
2 …. 6.6 (33.7%) …. The National Lottery Draws (19:45) BBC1
3 …. 6.6 (31.5%) …. Any Dream Will Do (21:45) BBC1
4 …. 6.4 (30.4%) …. Casualty (21:00) BBC1
5 …. 6.0 (28.9%) …. Any Dream Will Do (20:00) BBC1
6 …. 5.2 (27.9%) …. BBC News; Weather (22:15) BBC1
7 …. 4.5 (24.1%) …. Vernon Kay's Gameshow Marathon (18:45) ITV
8 …. 4.3 (28.8%) …. You've Been Framed! (17:45) ITV
9 …. 3.7 (18.2%) …. Grease Is the Word: Live (19:45) ITV
10 … 3.5 (16.6%) …. Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (21:15) ITV
11 …. 3.3 (20.7%) …. The People's Quiz (18:15) BBC1
12 …. 3.0 (23.0%) …. BBC News; Regional News; Weather (17:15) BBC1
13 …. 2.8 (20.0%) …. The Best of Just for Laughs (17:45) BBC1
14 …. 2.7 (20.2%) …. ITV News; Sports Results; Weather (17:30) ITV
15 …. 2.4 (12.5%) …. ITV News; Weather (22:15) ITV
16 …. 2.3 (18.1%) …. London Tonight (17:15) ITV
17 …. 2.0 ( 9.8%) …. RHS Chelsea Flower Show (20:00) BBC2
18 …. 2.0 ( 9.4%) …. CSI:NY (21:00) CH 5
19 …. 1.8 ( 9.2%) …. Have I Got a Bit More News for You (22:00) BBC2
20 … 1.8 ( 8.7%) …. Porridge (19:15) CH 4

Grease is the word must be shit if it keeps getting beaten by You've been framed every week

[stx]

You've Been Framed is the best thing on ITV by miles.

[HGFB]

You've Been Framed is the best thing on ITV by miles.

Especially when they do clips of birds like they did last night.

[Istar]

Not that any other Sci-fi is much better mind you.
Farscape did it quite well, but cant remember any other sci-fi's with good romantic storys. Generally it all seems too forced.

Babylon 5 did this rather well, I think - but as something secondary to the more significant story arcs. Doctor Who, with much less in the way of significant story arcs, would have more difficulty.

Also - that episode was ace. Best so far this series I think.

Also the DS9 Odo/Kira thang was pretty good.

I liked the appearance of the 8th Doctor in the notebook too, that was ace

Am I the only one who thinks that a Four Doctors with Tennant, Ecclestone, McGann and McCoy would be utterly ace?

The first rule of Doctor Who Club is: you do not talk about the McGann thing.

[Mayhem]

I did wonder why he gave one of the boys permission to admister a beating on the other one; IIRC, precisely the opposite of what he does in the book.

Probably because it would have been the done thing back then... I suppose they wanted to show the Doctor really was lost on his normal morals and fully in tune with how 1913 worked.

Also, did anyone else find the choice of hymn at the start interesting? "Let him in constancy follow The Master..."

No, that didn't escape me either

[PVB]

You've Been Framed is the best thing on ITV by miles.

Especially when they do clips of birds like they did last night.

Harry Hill is the best thing to happen to YBF, ever.

[Jonesey]

Aye not bad that! The pacing was excellent.

Scarecrows were a bit Wacko Jacko, like. And it was clearly written for an older Doctor (Headmaster/Matron thing...and that is Sylvester McCoy on the cover of that book, right? ).

I stand by my earlier crit. of the incidental music as well - it was a bit annoying in places. And the Doc was asking for trouble leaving a silver fob watch in plain sight in a boys' school!

Still the episode some atmos. - but if a feller goes off on a beer run and comes back empty handed he'd have had the severe beating!

[Sir_LANs-a-lot]

Quite an interesting thing too was:

The flashback to modern day with the boy calling out Marthas name - What's the connection there I wonder...

[Darkflame]

Not that any other Sci-fi is much better mind you.
Farscape did it quite well, but cant remember any other sci-fi's with good romantic storys. Generally it all seems too forced.

Babylon 5 did this rather well, I think - but as something secondary to the more significant story arcs. Doctor Who, with much less in the way of significant story arcs, would have more difficulty.

Also - that episode was ace. Best so far this series I think.

Also the DS9 Odo/Kira thang was pretty good.

Not to mention Leeta and Rom, that was cute

[benedictw]

Quite an interesting thing too was:

The flashback to modern day with the boy calling out Marthas name - What's the connection there I wonder...

Hes absorbing the doctors memories - so hes seeing himself in the docs positions - at least thats my take on it.

[pogo]

Quite an interesting thing too was:

The flashback to modern day with the boy calling out Marthas name - What's the connection there I wonder...

I thought:

This was just the kid seeing a memory of The Doctor's, i.e. if you played back someone else's memory wouldn't it seem as if you, rather than they, were there.

But I also wonder about that kid - he seems to have only a bit part, but has some sort of psychic ability. He's too young to become a companion, but assuming he survives part 2 he's young enough to re-appear, any time up to the modern day (though he'd be quite old).

[Ollie]

And did anyone else notice the Arthur Dent reference?