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Re: Trump
Trump is throwing the United States' weight around. Which isn't out of place. However, he's overbalancing and everyone will be examining options that don't include the US.
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Re: Trump
US states that it will "rebuild" North Korean economy if it denuclearises:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44091279
I'd be fully prepared to admit that would be a stunning triumph for the current administration, but I can't help but feel that its also a somewhat naive position to take - theres quite a few other issues with the current North Korean regime than just possession of nuclear weapons.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44091279
I'd be fully prepared to admit that would be a stunning triumph for the current administration, but I can't help but feel that its also a somewhat naive position to take - theres quite a few other issues with the current North Korean regime than just possession of nuclear weapons.
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Re: Trump
Maybe the thought is if they boom the 2 Korean economies and the 2 get along that would a balance in power against China. It's just the same reason why they havee been booming Mongolia and Vietnam. The only problem may be if those involved happen to get along with china better than they are expecting. After all the Europeans get along quite well when it comes to the rest of the World, no reason why the same wouldn't happen over there.
As for Trump that... that... that... individual withdraw the fund to Nasa's research into greenhouse gas cuts
Of course i think the European Space Agency could be capable of taken over the task, but if they will is another story.
As for Trump that... that... that... individual withdraw the fund to Nasa's research into greenhouse gas cuts
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44067797Trump White House axes Nasa research into greenhouse gas cuts
Of course i think the European Space Agency could be capable of taken over the task, but if they will is another story.
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If only ignoring Trump would make him go away so easily.
"Booming" North Koreas economy is probably going to be... problematic to say the least. As far as propping up possibly one of the worst regimes as far as human rights go (yes, I know the various Western powers aren't exactly blameless in that regard). Evidence from Iraq is that simply pouring money and even resources in doesn't work; you pretty much have to change the mindset of the people and create an environment in which the resources can be maintained...
"Booming" North Koreas economy is probably going to be... problematic to say the least. As far as propping up possibly one of the worst regimes as far as human rights go (yes, I know the various Western powers aren't exactly blameless in that regard). Evidence from Iraq is that simply pouring money and even resources in doesn't work; you pretty much have to change the mindset of the people and create an environment in which the resources can be maintained...
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I'm sure cancelling peace talks and then boasting about the size of your nuclear arsenal will in no way be considered an unfriendly move by North Korea...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44242558
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44242558
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Re: Trump
I knew the Orange One would screw it up...
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Vice-President Mike Pence - Trump's anti-assassination policy, by selecting the only person on the planet to be considered even worse than him - decided, for no particular reason, to suggest, before peace talks, that North Korea would end up going the same way as Libya, where Gaddafi agreed to surrender his nuclear ambitions - as North Korea have - and then ended up dead and murdered shortly after.
In fairness to North Korea, their official response of labelling this "stupid" would seem like a measured and reasonable response. Because it was, indeed, a pointlessly stupid thing to say.
Before a summit aimed at negotiating the de-nuclearisation of the Korean penisula, he decides to throw in - for no useful reason whatsoever - his belief that Kim Jong-Un surrendering his nuclear ambitions will see him end up murdered and dead.
I mean, what is Pence suggesting? That it's a bad idea to de-nuclearise, as it's somewhat inevitable that you'll end up assassinated?
How's that comment, just before a de-nuclearisation summit, supposed to help anyone with anything?
I'm sorry but, yes, North Korea's response to call this "stupid" was entirely on the mark. Because it is stupid. Really fucking stupid.
Not least because there really was no reason for him to say anything at all. None. He could have just happily shut his mouth and said nothing at all.
And, hey, if you wanted to make an encouraging example before a de-nuclearisation summit, you could recall South Africa. Who were a nuclear power, but who voluntarily and unilaterally got rid of their nuclear capability, and then, under Mandela with the end of Apartheid, re-emerged into the wider world once more from having been an international pariah for its previous racism.
How about that for a better example to encourage North Korea to de-nuclearise? As opposed to Mike Pence's "if you de-nculearise, then you will be hounded down and murdered like a dog".
I suspect Mike Pence did all this perfectly deliberately to sabotage the summit.
Because it's so monumentally stupid - North Korea's response was being kind, to be frank - and totally pointless for him to have suggested that de-nuclearisation would end up with Kim Jong-Un assassinated. Why? To what purpose? Based on what?
Was he trying to suggest, by this example, that any leader who surrenders their nuclear ambition will be murdered as a consequence? Umm, why suggest that? Ever. For any reason. Who's side is he even on?
It's so crazy, I do genuinely suspect Mike Pence of deliberate sabotage here. Because if it ain't malicious, then it's lethal incompetence.
In fairness to North Korea, their official response of labelling this "stupid" would seem like a measured and reasonable response. Because it was, indeed, a pointlessly stupid thing to say.
Before a summit aimed at negotiating the de-nuclearisation of the Korean penisula, he decides to throw in - for no useful reason whatsoever - his belief that Kim Jong-Un surrendering his nuclear ambitions will see him end up murdered and dead.
I mean, what is Pence suggesting? That it's a bad idea to de-nuclearise, as it's somewhat inevitable that you'll end up assassinated?
How's that comment, just before a de-nuclearisation summit, supposed to help anyone with anything?
I'm sorry but, yes, North Korea's response to call this "stupid" was entirely on the mark. Because it is stupid. Really fucking stupid.
Not least because there really was no reason for him to say anything at all. None. He could have just happily shut his mouth and said nothing at all.
And, hey, if you wanted to make an encouraging example before a de-nuclearisation summit, you could recall South Africa. Who were a nuclear power, but who voluntarily and unilaterally got rid of their nuclear capability, and then, under Mandela with the end of Apartheid, re-emerged into the wider world once more from having been an international pariah for its previous racism.
How about that for a better example to encourage North Korea to de-nuclearise? As opposed to Mike Pence's "if you de-nculearise, then you will be hounded down and murdered like a dog".
I suspect Mike Pence did all this perfectly deliberately to sabotage the summit.
Because it's so monumentally stupid - North Korea's response was being kind, to be frank - and totally pointless for him to have suggested that de-nuclearisation would end up with Kim Jong-Un assassinated. Why? To what purpose? Based on what?
Was he trying to suggest, by this example, that any leader who surrenders their nuclear ambition will be murdered as a consequence? Umm, why suggest that? Ever. For any reason. Who's side is he even on?
It's so crazy, I do genuinely suspect Mike Pence of deliberate sabotage here. Because if it ain't malicious, then it's lethal incompetence.
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Re: Trump
It looks like they are all going to hold a summit anyway, but without Trump.
If they think you're crude, go technical; if they think you're technical, go crude. I'm a very technical boy.
Re: Trump
The whole world should hold a summit without Trump. To discuss what a cock he is.
Just to piss him off.
Just to piss him off.
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Re: Trump
Breaking News - Xenophobia Might be Linked to Fascism!F-ZeroOne wrote:"What has democracy ever done for us, eh?"
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/t ... ncna877886
An interesting article, nonetheless, about how this might be affecting the U.S. in particular.
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I thought it was a good article
and it's not just the US beeing affected by that. Furthermore i would say that "when intolerant people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy".The research suggests that when intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy.
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Yeah. But isn't that kind of obvious?PFVA wrote:I thought it was a good article
and it's not just the US beeing affected by that. Furthermore i would say that "when intolerant people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy".The research suggests that when intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon their commitment to democracy.
If you fear that democracy may benefit a marginalized group you don't like, what you actually fear is becoming marginalized yourself. It's easy to like democracy when you agree with the ruling majority. It's not so strange if some people loose their faith in democracy if they feel that they are becoming marginalized. It's always hard to accept a negative change.