The 360 thread!

benedictw · Post by **benedictw** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:47 pm 0

Kamineko wrote:And they were all much more pleasant than DJ Atomica.

Hes better than DJ Stryker, thats for certain.

The Captain · Post by **The Captain** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:18 pm 0

Personally speaking I think Burnout Paradise is a blast. The online stuff seems really well judged and this is the first game since Crackdown that's had me giggling like I'm three again. I like the handling and the overall feel and the open-endedness is really what I wanted from this direction of the Burnout series. It's gone from a 'hmmmm have to see what its like' to a 'bloody hell this is great, I'm having that on launch day.'

And I loved Burnout 1/2 more than any of the others. This is just different in ways that don't seem as poorly thought through as latter Burnouts.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:18 pm 0

Rod_S wrote:This is Need For Speed/Midnight Club with a crash cam. Rubbish.

Midnight Club in the same sentence as Need For Speed (given how NFS has gone downhill lately) ?

HERESY!

fog · Post by **fog** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:12 pm 0

benedictw wrote:This Arkadian Warriors isnt bad - sort of Diablo lite. Hmm. Lego: Diablo sums it up I think. Would be pretty fun in co-op I think.

I think the combat could have done with a bit more depth even if it was just a guard button, but I'd say your Lego:Diablo description sums it up well.

Grip Shift is also worth a look. The control issues I had with the PSP version are fixed and there's a stack of levels and challenges to be had for anyone that likes it.

chub · Post by **chub** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:05 pm 0

Bubba wrote:
benedictw wrote:Care to give us some impressions? Upto Burnout 2 quality or more like the last 2 ?
I love / hate this game. It drives and handles really nicely (probably slightly closer to 2 than 4 or 3 to be honest. But the much touted "drive anywhere" open ended experience is fucking dire. I want to race, and if for some reason (such as the poorly signalled race routes) I come in 1mm off first place I want to start again. Instantly. I don't want to have to drive back to the feckin start, totalling my car twice along the way.

I seriously hope this is just a demo thing. Not being able to restart a race right away is just not Burnout. Races get the adrenaline going, but then having to navigate back to the start is just boring. Notice I use the word navigate. I'm trying to drive back to start, but I spent much time going 'where is the fucking start?'. Checking the map to work out exactly which junction the race is on, no way to mark it like in say Test Drive Unlimited, no GPS directions to it. That's not Burnout either. I'm not saying I want GPS, I'm saying I just want to race now!

Even when I did actually win the race, nothing changed on the map. When the whole city is open, how do I know which ones I've won? As I said, I hope these are just demo things that won't be in the full game.

Grumble.

Rod_S · Post by **Rod_S** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:10 pm 0

chub wrote: I seriously hope this is just a demo thing. Not being able to restart a race right away is just not Burnout.

No, this is Burnout:

Retry race? Y/N

Y

Are You Sure? Y/N

Y

You have won a new trophy! A to continue

A

You have unlocked a new car! A to continue

A

New Fastest Lap! A to continue

Retry? Y/N

Y

Connecting to EA servers......

....

..

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chub · Post by **chub** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:35 pm 0

Well, OK not quite right away. But anyway, pressing the A button 5 times is still quicker than in this new one.

Phineasfool · Post by **Phineasfool** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:42 pm 0

Tried the BP demo on the PS3. It's definitely pretty, but not sure if I want it or not yet. I'm still kinda bummed about the traditional crash mode not being there. That was always my favorite part, and generally where I excelled.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:16 am 0

I don't get the online stuff. Occasionally some challenge thing pops up (be the first to drive through 3 Burnout signs or whatever), but most of the time it's just four guys in a junction trying to crash into each other. What's the trigger here? And what's the difference between going Friends > Instant Freeburn and Freeburn Online > Quick Match?

Peet · Post by **Peet** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:57 am 0

The Captain wrote:Personally speaking I think Burnout Paradise is a blast. The online stuff seems really well judged and this is the first game since Crackdown that's had me giggling like I'm three again. I like the handling and the overall feel and the open-endedness is really what I wanted from this direction of the Burnout series.

I'm feeling this too. The stunt run, where you can choose where to pull off crazy shit for maximum points within a time limit is probably the best bit. The time limit race is pretty annoying though, and looking at the greyed-out map of the entire city it seems really small, which to me would seem to rule out both a huge number of events and any races of the length seen in Revenge. Dunno tho...

I quite like Atomika so far too. Another league entirely compared to
Stryker. I suppose he starts to repeat himself at some point though.

Still a bit confused about the online stuff, however...

Though between this and Crackdown, the game I really can't believe hasn't been made yet is freeroaming Jet Set Radio. The visual style and graffiti concept of JSR (with none of the dodgy rollerskating physics and pixel perfect jumps), city from Crackdown with added grinding bits and the persistent radio DJ, seamless online play and a racing challenge or three from this, complete with an suitable and extensive soundtrack.... *sigh*

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:49 am 0

chub wrote:Apparently there's a Frontlines demo on Live too, but that's 1.7 Gb.

I was playing it earlier thinking "well, just another FPS that I'm not going to like." But this one seems pretty fun.

The one thing that gets me is that it's more of a hybrid between, say, COD2 and Virtua Cop. I'm not sure if I like the Virtua Cop element much (enemies "appear" in preset locations - kill enough of them, reach the smoke, trigger a change in enemies, and progress your "frontline" further).

This makes it different than other FPS I've seen, which could be good or bad.

Graphically and sound wise, this one is aces. Rock solid framerates and amazing sound effects in 5.1 surround.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:11 am 0

Man, Gripshift was really disappointing :/

Phineasfool · Post by **Phineasfool** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:22 am 0

Guru-Meditation wrote:Man, Gripshift was really disappointing :/

Really? I love it. Of course I loved the PSP version also. I get addicted in trying to get as good a time as possible.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:05 am 0

I think I was expecting more. It's hard to play Trackmania United on one side and then this. Gripshift just can't compare in my books.

WiredWorm · Post by **WiredWorm** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:32 am 0

Had a quick play with Burnout Paradise last night - found it an abolute blast - having the freedom to just drive around jumping off ramps and over stuff really appeals to me. Had a good laugh when I found a nice ramp on top of a mult-storey car park.

Graphically it looks really nice - and I was particularly impressed with the physics applied to the vehicles. They all seem to have realistic crumple zones and stuff - I manage to reduce the width of my car by 50% by ramming it into a solid immovable object.

Wasn't really that interested in this originally but it now looks like it'll be on my list to buy.