The Dr Who thread

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:31 pm 0

Dungeon-Dave wrote:
Dio wrote:Don't need to watch a Tom Cruise movie to know it's gonna be shite doya?
Indeed. You've never seen the shite that's "The Last Samurai", have you?
[CLOSE SARCASM TAG HERE, btw...]

Well, I didn't like it. Like all his movies except perhaps Minority Report, it's horrendously self-indulgent and primarily a three-hour commercial saying "I'm great." See also Costner, Kevin, "Dances With Wolves" for a direct analogy.

Stuart B · Post by **Stuart B** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:41 pm 0

Seems that there have been more of those LOLdoctor parodies!

oo, there's loads...

PVB · Post by **PVB** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:37 pm 0

Blimey, this place is getting like the OG forums.

Some people won't watch anything that Catherine Tate is in, either because they just don't like her, they think she's a bad actress, they don't like the characters she plays, or more than one of those reasons.

Okay, but if she ever appears in something that you would like, you're never going to know are you, so how can you watch anything with any other actor in it, as you may not like that either?

Doctor Who has always had "How are they going to get out of that?!" Dayus X

moments in it, so these recent ones aren't really any different. They just haven't reversed the polarity to escape.

I've only seen little bits of the Catherine Tate show ("Am I bovvered?!" etc.), and I liked The Runaway Bride, so will wait and see what the next series is like.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:52 pm 0

PVB wrote:Doctor Who has always had "How are they going to get out of that?!" Dayus X moments in it, so these recent ones aren't really any different. They just haven't reversed the polarity to escape.

Well, you're right in that the fundamental problem is that it's not just a Deus Ex it was that it was completely daft with it. I certainly chafe at the frustration that it wouldn't have been hard to resolve both more satisfyingly and more dramatically, with a real titanic (ha!) clash between the Doctor and the Master rather than just "boom! I win."

betamax · Post by **betamax** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:19 am 0

Dio wrote:
PVB wrote:Doctor Who has always had "How are they going to get out of that?!" Dayus X moments in it, so these recent ones aren't really any different. They just haven't reversed the polarity to escape.
Well, you're right in that the fundamental problem is that it's not just a Deus Ex it was that it was completely daft with it. I certainly chafe at the frustration that it wouldn't have been hard to resolve both more satisfyingly and more dramatically, with a real titanic (ha!) clash between the Doctor and the Master rather than just "boom! I win."

Something with, oh I dunno... laser swords perhaps?

Stuart B · Post by **Stuart B** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:55 am 0

Duelling screwdrivers!

CarlBillen · Post by **CarlBillen** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:19 am 0

Stuart B wrote:Seems that there have been more of those LOLdoctor parodies!

oo, there's loads...

Great find! Looking for that 'lolwho' tag gave the link with the Who/Torchwood macros:
http://nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com/tag/lolwho

My favourite indivual pic:

aureole · Post by **aureole** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:47 am 0

On reflection, I think Tate'll make a good one-season companion. Rose annoyed me 'cos she was a bit slow on the uptake - but that was necessary from a dramatic point of view since you're introducing a new generation to Doctor Who (Rose was onscreen before the Doctor was in the first series). Martha was good - a bit more on the ball, but I think they wrote themselves into a corner with the pining love story. Her taking a few eps off to get her head sorted will do the trick. So now we have someone who doesn't understand what's going on, but doesn't really care either. Will make an entertaining series I reckon - especially the interplay between Martha and Donna.

phattslagg · Post by **phattslagg** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:51 am 0

Looking back on this season, I've decided that Martha was pretty boring, and I look forward to what Tate can bring to the role.

Ollie · Post by **Ollie** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:15 am 0

Dio wrote:Well, you're right in that the fundamental problem is that it's not just a Deus Ex it was that it was completely daft with it. I certainly chafe at the frustration that it wouldn't have been hard to resolve both more satisfyingly and more dramatically, with a real titanic (ha!) clash between the Doctor and the Master rather than just "boom! I win."

Yes, that's what it needed, a real clash between them. Instead of the Doctor turning into a god, and the Master just curling up into a ball and giving up. It was unsatisfying because it was too one-sided.

It was kind of a "With one jump, Jack was free" scenario. You want it to be a bit more of a struggle than that.

Also: stories are about journeys, and the way people are changed by them. Martha had a very literal journey in this one. But we didn't get to see it. We didn't even, really, get to see how that journey had changed her (she seemed pretty much the same to me); we were just asked to accept that it had. Most unsatisfying.

Purple Grapefruit · Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:37 am 0

I loved the "runaway bride" and i am pleased that Catherine Tate
is joining Dr Who.I think she will give the doctor "a good run for
his money" (dramatically wise).

edit* and she's got nice tits.

Sir_LANs-a-lot · Post by **Sir_LANs-a-lot** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:51 am 0

Apparently Dennis Hopper will be playing a baddie in the new series.

bloid · Post by **bloid** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:55 am 0

I hope they get the Fonz in too...

Stevo · Post by **Stevo** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:12 am 0

Harlequin wrote:I do not think that I have noticed a single deus ex machina in any of the season finales. All of the factors involved seem to have been introduced long before they were used. Are people using some odd definition of the term that I am not familiar with?

Stevo wrote:Donna Tate.........Her name should be Donna Thrush
Who is this Donna Tate? Is she any relation to Rose Piper or Freema Jones?

oops.....I meant Catherine.......I must of been on drugs....or something

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:49 am 0

Dio wrote:But instead the Time Lords' psychic powers suddenly add telekinesis and ooh-I-feel-better-thanks as well, which is a total and utter Ass Pull. And check that definition out. It could have been written for this Who episode .

Possible literal Ass Pull in the Doctor Who episode "Bad Wolf". Captain Jack produces a small gun out of nowhere while completely naked.
ZU-ZANA: But... that's a Compact Laser Deluxe!
TRIN-E: Where were you hiding that?
JACK: You really don't wanna know.