The Dr Who thread

[Rev. Stuart Campbell]

It's like Outpost Gallifrey here these days Am I the only one still emjoying it?

Hey, it's still the best show on TV. This was just the worst episode of the best show on TV...

I actually quite liked Trigger - he WAS supposed to be mad, after all. But his henchman and AlternaMickey were a bad joke, and I'm with everyone else on the feeble, neurotic new Rose.

[Snakey]

< purplechair posts bad wolf pic>

I knew somebody was going to do that

You know what I mean.

Hey, it's still the best show on TV. This was just the worst episode of the best show on TV...

Yeah. I mean, I haven't been that impressed with most of this series so far, but that may well only be because the last series was so bloody good.

Could be better, is all.

[HGFB]

But I guess they can do whatever the hell they like, they just had the Cybermen created on earth, for fucks sake.

What's wrong with that?

[PVB]

It's like Outpost Gallifrey here these days Am I the only one still emjoying it?

I'm still really enjoying it.

But:

Did you see the "Confidential"?

They showed the cybermen actors at their choreography sessions to get them to walk menacingly. There's a scene there with the actors marching in unison and it was absolutely genuinely menacing and frightening - really spooky because they marched totally in unison and marched with unnatural confidence with no individuality at all - even though they weren't in costume.

In the show? They only ever march in confined spaces or, outside, they only show them taking two steps before cutting. Totally not in the show itself at all. Total waste of brilliant trained choreography that we see on "Confidential" and genuinely is a frightening sight to see people march in such a robotic and unnatural way and the excellently designed suits.

I agree.

There was a bit in Confidential where the Cybermen were filmed walking across the lawn towards the house. It was a long take, with the director shouting "Cut!" as they got to the house.

As he shouted it, all the Cybermen stopped and looked around at him, at exactly the same moment. Fair shitted me up, that did.

But in the episode we go from a quick shot of them on the lawn to Doc and Rose running about.

Edit:

Oh, and can we stop calling the actor Roger Lloyd-Pack 'Trigger'?

[PurpleChair]

< purplechair posts bad wolf pic>

I knew somebody was going to do that

You know what I mean.

I just don't think it's much different, in terms of noticability.

Except it's a bit different this time because Bad Wolf was just sort of building up to the final episode, wheras Torchwood is building up to the new series (and line of toys, etc *cough*). And also the final episode, I would imagine.

But, you know, someone walking past the screen and saying "The latest paper by the Torchwood institute..." seems to stick out just as much as the Mox of Balhoun saying "This is the classic Bad Wolf scenario". Or whatever.

In short: "meh".

[Snakey]

Well. They invent this whole alternate reality stuff just so they could base yet another episode in London. Just... why? I don't even really care that much that it was earth. But bloody London again. Haven't we seen enough of Jackie and that dead husband of hers?

I dunno. The Cybermen should have just invaded like all good evil things do. It's only right.

[HGFB]

Overnight ratings are starting to become available but they appear to be a bit screwed. Taken from OG

Code: Select all

Rating data is a bit complicated this week due to the late running of the programme. The initial data issued is based on the scheduled time, so Doctor Who is worked out on the average rating between 1900 and 1945. This gives a rating of 7.7m

I’ve done a rough estimate of the actual overnight by averaging the 15 minute breakdowns for the period the programme was on. This gives a more accurate rating of 8.4m When the five minute breakdowns come out we can get a better estimate.

Marcus



Time ………. BBC1 ……………… ITV ……………… BBC2 ……………… CH4 ……………… CH5
17:45 ….. 9.4 (54.9%) ….. 1.5 ( 8.9%) ….. 0.7 ( 4.1%) ….. 1.3 ( 7.6%) ….. 0.6 ( 3.2%)
18:00 ….. 6.9 (40.4%) ….. 2.1 (12.4%) ….. 0.8 ( 4.8%) ….. 2.5 (15.0%) ….. 0.7 ( 4.3%)
18:15 ….. 5.1 (30.7%) ….. 2.6 (15.5%) ….. 1.0 ( 5.7%) ….. 3.2 (19.0%) ….. 0.9 ( 5.2%)
18:30 ….. 5.0 (29.3%) ….. 2.8 (16.2%) ….. 1.2 ( 7.3%) ….. 3.0 (17.6%) ….. 0.9 ( 5.4%)
18:45 ….. 5.8 (33.5%) ….. 3.2 (18.3%) ….. 1.5 ( 8.9%) ….. 1.6 ( 9.2%) ….. 1.1 ( 6.3%)
19:00 ….. 7.2 (39.1%) ….. 3.1 (16.6%) ….. 2.0 (10.6%) ….. 1.2 ( 6.5%) ….. 1.3 ( 6.8%)
19:15 … 7.6 (39.5%) … 3.2 (16.4%) … 2.6 (13.3%) … 1.4 ( 7.3%) … 0.6 ( 3.2%)
19:30 … 8.2 (40.7%) … 2.9 (14.4%) … 2.6 (12.9%) … 1.6 ( 8.0%) … 0.6 ( 3.1%)
19:45 … 9.0 (43.4%) … 3.1 (15.2%) … 2.1 ( 9.9%) … 1.7 ( 8.1%) … 0.6 ( 2.9%)
20:00 ….. 8.6 (41.1%) ….. 2.8 (13.5%) ….. 2.2 (10.7%) ….. 1.9 ( 8.9%) ….. 0.6 ( 2.9%)
20:15 ….. 6.8 (32.8%) ….. 3.1 (15.1%) ….. 2.5 (12.2%) ….. 1.9 ( 9.0%) ….. 0.8 ( 3.9%)
20:30 ….. 7.4 (35.3%) ….. 3.6 (17.3%) ….. 2.1 (10.3%) ….. 1.8 ( 8.5%) ….. 1.0 ( 4.8%)
20:45 ….. 6.9 (32.2%) ….. 4.8 (22.3%) ….. 1.8 ( 8.3%) ….. 1.9 ( 9.0%) ….. 1.2 ( 5.8%)
21:00 ….. 7.6 (35.3%) ….. 4.1 (19.1%) ….. 1.6 ( 7.5%) ….. 2.1 (10.0%) ….. 1.5 ( 6.9%)
21:15 ….. 8.0 (37.2%) ….. 3.3 (15.6%) ….. 1.0 ( 4.9%) ….. 2.4 (11.3%) ….. 1.7 ( 8.2%)
21:30 ….. 6.4 (30.5%) ….. 3.8 (18.0%) ….. 1.1 ( 5.3%) ….. 2.6 (12.4%) ….. 2.1 ( 9.9%)
21:45 ….. 5.4 (26.2%) ….. 4.1 (19.8%) ….. 1.1 ( 5.3%) ….. 2.7 (13.1%) ….. 2.2 (10.8%)
22:00 ….. 5.2 (26.1%) ….. 3.4 (17.1%) ….. 1.1 ( 5.5%) ….. 2.6 (13.0%) ….. 2.1 (10.3%)
22:15 ….. 4.4 (23.8%) ….. 2.2 (12.0%) ….. 1.1 ( 5.8%) ….. 2.7 (14.9%) ….. 1.8 ( 9.6%)
22:30 ….. 2.3 (14.1%) ….. 2.1 (13.3%) ….. 1.1 ( 7.1%) ….. 2.7 (16.5%) ….. 1.7 (10.7%)
22:45 ….. 2.1 (14.2%) ….. 1.8 (12.1%) ….. 1.0 ( 6.7%) ….. 2.8 (18.6%) ….. 1.6 (11.0%)
23:00 ….. 2.5 (19.2%) ….. 1.8 (14.3%) ….. 1.1 ( 8.9%) ….. 0.8 ( 6.0%) ….. 1.1 ( 8.8%)
23:15 ….. 2.4 (20.3%) ….. 1.6 (13.9%) ….. 1.1 ( 9.3%) ….. 0.6 ( 5.3%) ….. 0.7 ( 5.8%)
23:30 ….. 2.3 (23.0%) ….. 1.3 (13.1%) ….. 1.0 ( 9.9%) ….. 0.5 ( 5.1%) ….. 0.5 ( 4.7%)

[Governmentyard]

It's like Outpost Gallifrey here these days Am I the only one still emjoying it?

No. I like Dr. Who are really big lot

[Istar]

Oh, and can we stop calling the actor Roger Lloyd-Pack 'Trigger'?

Alright, Dave.

[PVB]

Oh, and can we stop calling the actor Roger Lloyd-Pack 'Trigger'?

Alright, Dave.

Cunt.

[HGFB]

Someone on the OG forums posted a sample from next week's script which I'm presenting here to you.

Lumic: 'Doctor, they obey me, I am their father, their creator. They know who I am, They respond to me.

Doctor: 'I dont belive you, mr Lumic. My past experiences have shown that they respond to no human.

Lumic: 'Oh no? (turns to motionless cyberman standing at the edge of his desk) My child, I am your creator, your master - who am I?

Cyberman: 'Hello Dave'

[HGFB]

Totally Unofficial Top Thirty

1 …. 7.7 (39.8%) (Cor 8.4) …. Doctor Who (19:00) BBC1
2 …. 7.1 (33.7%) (Cor 7.4) …. Casualty (20:15) BBC1
3 …. 8.5 (40.7%) (Cor 7.1) …. The National Lottery Jet Set (19:45) BBC1
4 …. 9.9 (57.3%) (Cor 6.9) …. BBC News; Regional News; Weather (17:30) BBC1
5 …. 5.7 (33.5%) (Cor 6.7) …. Strictly Dance Fever (18:00) BBC1
6 …. 6.3 (51.4%) (Cor 6.3) …. Match of the Day Live: FA Cup Final (13:00) BBC1
7 …. 5.5 (26.4%) (Cor 4.8 ) …. BBC News; Weather (21:30) BBC1
8 …. 3.9 (18.4%) (Cor 3.9) …. Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (19:45) ITV
9 …. 3.7 (17.8%) (Cor 3.7) …. Denis Norden's All New 13th Laughter File (20:45) ITV
10 … 3.0 (15.8%) (Cor 3.0) …. X-Men (18:00) ITV
11 … 2.9 (17.0%) (Cor 2.9) …. Deal or No Deal (17:45) CH 4
12 … 2.6 (13.6%) (Cor 2.6) …. Along Came a Spider (21:00) CH 4
13 … 3.1 (20.0%) (Cor 2.3) …. The Hunted (22:00) BBC1
14 … 2.3 (11.0%) (Cor 2.3) …. Life on Air (19:30) BBC2
15 … 2.1 (12.4%) (Cor 2.1) …. You've Been Framed! (17:30) ITV
16 … 2.1 (11.3%) (Cor 2.1) …. Flog It! (18:30) BBC2
17 … 2.0 (12.8%) (Cor 2.0) …. The In-Laws (21:45) ITV
18 … 2.0 ( 9.6%) (Cor 2.0) …. CSI:NY (21:00) CH 5
19 … 1.8 ( 8.2%) (Cor 1.8 ) …. QI (20:30) BBC2
20 … 1.7 (10.3%) (Cor 1.7) …. Law and Order: Criminal Intent (22:00) CH 5
21 … 1.7 ( 8.5%) (Cor 1.7) …. The Real Da Vinci Code (19:00) CH 4
22 … 1.6 (13.9%) (Cor 1.6) …. ITV News (23:00) ITV
23 … 1.5 (23.8%) (Cor 1.5) …. Great British Menu (11:30) BBC1
24 … 1.5 (22.7%) (Cor 1.5) …. BBC News; Weather (12:00) BBC1
25 … 1.5 (19.3%) (Cor 1.5) …. Murder, She Wrote (12:15) BBC1
26 … 1.5 ( 8.7%) (Cor 1.5) …. Channel 4 News (18:30) CH 4
27 … 1.4 (23.7%) (Cor 1.4) …. Saturday Kitchen (10:00) BBC1
28 … 1.4 ( 7.9%) (Cor 1.4) …. ITV News; Sports Results; Weather (17:15) ITV
29 … 1.8 (20.9%) (Cor 1.4) …. Match of the Day: FA Cup Final (23:30) BBC1
30 … 1.3 (15.4%) (Cor 1.3) …. The In-Laws (23:15) ITV

Official broken figures on the left. Corrected unofficial figures on the right

[daniel thomas]

Really groovy episode. It took a couple episodes, but the Tennant season has warmed up for me. I was a big Cyberman fan back in my teenage years, so I'm happy to see them return in all their menacing glory.

Don't they look better than those laughable spraypainted lacrosse outfits from the '80s? Even the Cybermen voices were a throback to their glory days of the '60s, when they were genuinely creepy.

I can see a lot of the older fans complaining about coninuity, with reinventing the Cybermen origin on a parallel Earth, but I'm happy. I enjoy the writers' willingness to go their own way. Sci-fi is far too stiff, anyway. I'm always reminded of the classic William Shatner skit on SNL.

Great episode, can't wait for next week. How will our heroes get out of this one? (/Rocky & Bullwinkle voice)

[Ollie]

New website time

http://cybusindustries.net/
http://internationalelectromatics.co.uk/
http://www.cybusfitness.co.uk/

Also http://www.henriksonline.co.uk/

[HGFB]

I don't mind the cybervoices from Tomb but the Tenth Planet cybermen always seemed to be the special needs class to me.