Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:05 am 0

thats a nice price!

is the site trustworthy?

Flojomojo · Post by **Flojomojo** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:03 am 0

Darkflame wrote:
Flojomojo wrote:No Wii for me, but I shall buy the Cube version of Zelda in about 60 minutes. It might just be my last non-portable Nintendo purchase.
your mistake to make i guess.

My money to save.

phattslagg · Post by **phattslagg** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:21 am 0

Darkflame wrote:thats a nice price!

is the site trustworthy?

No idea - but I've taken the plunge anyway. Will let you know how it goes..

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:44 am 0

Interesting criticism of Zelda's graphics:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/11/ninte ... alls-flat/

Gotta say I mostly agree with the colour issues they describe, but I love fishing and couldn't care about the signs, even if having to lock on individually is a little annoying. I just wish it was a little more colourful in places

Oh, and please don't kill me Ninty fanboys

I love the game (I've sunk over 20 hours in in the space of 3 days!), just honestly think it would benefit from enhanced graphics in the form of a few less greys and higher res textures. Admittedly it wouldn't tremendously affect the gameplay, but it would certainly help world immersion even more.

Cheers

Bubba

arbster · Post by **arbster** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:56 am 0

Bubba wrote:Interesting criticism of Zelda's graphics:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/11/ninte ... alls-flat/

Gotta say I mostly agree with the colour issues they describe, but I love fishing and couldn't care about the signs, even if having to lock on individually is a little annoying. I just wish it was a little more colourful in places

Oh, and please don't kill me Ninty fanboys I love the game (I've sunk over 20 hours in in the space of 3 days!), just honestly think it would benefit from enhanced graphics in the form of a few less greys and higher res textures. Admittedly it wouldn't tremendously affect the gameplay, but it would certainly help world immersion even more.

Cheers

Bubba

I agree. Been playing it a lot since I received it on Saturday and it has surpassed my expectations a lot. I'm loving ths game, but do wish they would of at least used higher res textures - a bit baffled why they haven't. I didn't expect them to increasy the poly count or anything. Still, I do see this as a gamecube game in the end with wii controls added on... and I think they work really well.

We will see what the wii can do graphics wise in the near future I hope. Super Mario Galaxy is looking nice. I like the looks of Pokemon on the Wii too (though never played a Pokemon game before) and the Dragon's Quest Swords game looks quite yummy too.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:26 am 0

Higher res is never something I argued with, but I dissagree with this whole washed out buisness.
I guess one persons "washed out" is another persons "wonderfull water-colour-esq feel".

Mat T · Post by **Mat T** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:24 am 0

disciple wrote:you push it in to eject.

OK, well if that is the case, my Wii SD Card slot ain't working. Boo.

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:13 am 0

Gnnnnghhh, I, can't, resist, such, complete, twattery.

Bubba wrote:Interesting criticism of Zelda's graphics:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/11/ninte ... alls-flat/

Gotta say I mostly agree with the colour issues they describe, but I love fishing and couldn't care about the signs, even if having to lock on individually is a little annoying. I just wish it was a little more colourful in places

Interesting as in, a mind-boggling stupid article written by an obvious moron? I mean ffs, it's got to the point where the one constituent group whose opinion I *instinctively* mistrust about games, is gamers. Especially vocal ones who drone on and on and on about whatever they go on about. They (or perhaps "we") just seem to be a herd of unthinking buffoons who believe that throwing "shaders" in a conversation makes them look authoratative. Complaining that he can't read the signs? Jesus Fucking Wept. Let's just sweep twenty years of gaming history under the carpet because this douchebag is an idiot. I particularly loved this absolute gem:

Joey Deacon risen from the grave and writing for Joystiq wrote:In the latest Zelda, the game's designers have been forced to sabotage game play to atone for the console's graphical shortcomings.

"Sabotage". Like what? Oh, yes, of course, the critically important signage and fishing-line float. It's as if the other 50 or so hours of game don't actually matter or it's all a bit "meh" anyway. I urge forumites to read the article and not shit themselves.

Probably the most objective and generally sensible comment on Zelda's graphics has come from the ever-reliable arstechnica. This is quite aside from the general maturity and level-headedness that has come from, I kid you not, rllmuk. Anyway, I quote:

ars wrote:Technologically, there's not much going on with the visuals, I can't point out the high resolutions or the special lighting effects or anything else. The water looks good, but everything else is just kind of there. Where the game excels, and why it will take your breath away, is the art design. It just works, and it's beautiful. That's the challenge for developers working with the Wii: they can't fake a good aesthetic or rely on graphics to save bad design. Either they have something interesting to look at or the game is going to be a strain on your eyes. Twilight Princess proves that a talented artist can make you forget about whatever failings the hardware may have. [Unless you're a complete fucking wanker - Ed.]

Art design, people. It does wonders.

He's basically right and obviously has no platform bias. For all the HD lovliness that was Oblivion (also mentioned in the Joystiq article), its visuals were/are considerably more generic and predictable than Zelda's. Just more fairly boring American D&D styling that we've seen many many times before. Technically fabulous but just not very imaginative or inspiring. Whether it was more immersive than Zelda is largely a matter of opinion but I didn't think so. Is Gears of War ruined by being too grey, or would Schindler's List or Pi have been better in colour? Would Twilight Princess have been better cell-shaded with strong pastels? No, no, and um, no. They stand up as their own creations. Improvements will come in time and it's obvious that Zelda has taken a long time to develop and that certain trade-offs have been made to get the damn thing finished. You might want it to look sharper but it's a bit like saying "I wish Black Sabbath had spent more time on album production". In the end, it doesn't matter, it's still classic, just enjoy for what it is.

Bubba wrote:Oh, and please don't kill me Ninty fanboys

Christ All Fucking Mighty, please, if you do *nothing* else with the rest of your life, please stop this. I was wondering if I *really* needed a break from this place and this has indeed sealed it for me. I just can't handle this sort of shit anymore, the console threads on this forum are unbearable at the moment and the actual gaming discussion has all but vanished. That line is a turn of phrase that makes we want to lever both my eyes out with a spoon and then squash them hard into this LCD monitor with my thumbs whilst shaking my head and screaming "I CAN'T FEEL MY COCK MUMMY!!" I might just have to settle for smashing that smiley with a claw-hammer. It'll be worth it.

rockwaldo · Post by **rockwaldo** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:55 am 0

GeeZa wrote:Gnnnnghhh, I, can't, resist, such, complete, twattery.

.....<SNIP>

Now you see. All that stuff up there ^ in your post?

thats an angry man at not very much - thats what that is. Take a rest mate.

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:11 am 0

A pretty pointless rant from Joystiq, and they probably know that the majority of gamers out there will disagree. Hell, when a game get's 95% positive reviews there usually are some truth to what they are saying. Joystiq should sit down, bang their heads together and try to figure out what the hell they missed.

You know, I was actually considering downloading Mario 64 on the virtual console...but since I cannot read the signposts without pressing a button, perhaps I shouldn't bother.

And being able to read the signposts in Oblivion truly made this the greatest game, like, ever

Mele · Post by **Mele** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:13 am 0

Humble pie for me , after the disappointing start to zelda and feeling let down, I have now had a complete reversal after reaching the second dungeon.
The graphics that was annoying me now have me hooked and to see how the direction is going it pure genius.

So last night consisted of bowling with the kids and then my youngest daughter kicking my arse at boxing , followed by a great session of zelda and to finish a quick wii mail to a mate. I went to bed a very happy man:)

oh yeah we got all the familly mii's done for christmas day , got the grandad and funkmiester looking great.

fog · Post by **fog** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:11 am 0

Humble pie for me , after the disappointing start to zelda and feeling let down, I have now had a complete reversal after reaching the second dungeon.

I'm almost starting to feel the same. The thing that I've found is that the graphics at the beginning of the game aren't really representative of what is to follow both in style and quality.

Based on the first couple of hours I wasn't keen on the style and overall look but as you progress and you see the Twilight areas and the more interestingly designed and beautiful daylight sequences you appreciate them a hell of a lot more.

grue · Post by **grue** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:53 am 0

Crystal Chronicles DS
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0612/game061212b.shtml

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:13 am 0

GeeZa wrote:
Bubba wrote:Oh, and please don't kill me Ninty fanboys
Christ All Fucking Mighty, please, if you do *nothing* else with the rest of your life, please stop this. I was wondering if I *really* needed a break from this place and this has indeed sealed it for me. I just can't handle this sort of shit anymore, the console threads on this forum are unbearable at the moment and the actual gaming discussion has all but vanished. That line is a turn of phrase that makes we want to lever both my eyes out with a spoon and then squash them hard into this LCD monitor with my thumbs whilst shaking my head and screaming "I CAN'T FEEL MY COCK MUMMY!!" I might just have to settle for smashing that smiley with a claw-hammer. It'll be worth it.

Big pile of yawn. So because one aspect of a game is decidedly average, while it excels at everything else I should just ignore the first? Or am I only allowed to post pictures of planes or rave on about how the Wii is the second coming of christ? Sorry, but you're just being unreasonable, and decidedly unfluffy. Take a break, go play some Zelda or something but for gods sake get over your attitude! Whether you like it or not, graphics are a part of gaming, and most actual games discssion has taken place in threads about the games themselves. Whereas these large "fanboy" threads are generally links to external articles.

Or you could post some more ranty bollocks, that'd work too.

Cheers

Bubba

Stevo · Post by **Stevo** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:44 am 0