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Misfit wrote:It's been hacked. Run third party apps on it:

http://www.modmyiphone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9405

There seem to be quite a few apps already for the iPhone and I imagine these would work on the touch.
That looks great, but:

a) it seems you need a Mac/Linux to do it;
b) didn't Apple say they will release "cruel updates" to brick the devices of people who do this?
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hyphz wrote:b) didn't Apple say they will release "cruel updates" to brick the devices of people who do this?
No.
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Kemper_Boyd wrote:
hyphz wrote:b) didn't Apple say they will release "cruel updates" to brick the devices of people who do this?
No.
They didn't say that. They did say people who had unlocked their phone might damage their hardware, and their was a sort of implied threat, and they also said they wouldn't seek to deliberately wreck 3rd party apps, although suprise suprise their first update did.
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offyoutoddle wrote:
Kemper_Boyd wrote:
hyphz wrote:b) didn't Apple say they will release "cruel updates" to brick the devices of people who do this?
No.
They didn't say that. They did say people who had unlocked their phone might damage their hardware, and their was a sort of implied threat, and they also said they wouldn't seek to deliberately wreck 3rd party apps, although suprise suprise their first update did.
If you f*ck about with the software/firmware of a product to do stuff that you're not supposed to be able to do then you've got to expect problems. I fail to see what the big deal is, anyone who saw the update as somehow an anti-user attack is an idiot. Unsupported third-party hacks run risks, that's the bottom line, you can't force Apple or anyone else to accept or support these mods.

I think it's almost inevitable that we'll see third party apps for the iPhone/iPod Touch but they're not here yet. I doubt it'll be too long before Apple announce something or other on that score.
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GeeZa wrote:If you f*ck about with the software/firmware of a product to do stuff that you're not supposed to be able to do then you've got to expect problems. I fail to see what the big deal is, anyone who saw the update as somehow an anti-user attack is an idiot. Unsupported third-party hacks run risks, that's the bottom line, you can't force Apple or anyone else to accept or support these mods.
Exactly. They should just be glad that so far no hacked firmware has
disabled watchdogs, screwed up radio settings, messed around with
power management or charging, and perhaps worst of all damaged
the boot loader and flashing software. Then they'll have something
to bitch about. :)
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Post by matt »

As some of you Last.fm users may have noticed, scrobblers no longer work with the iPhone/iPod Touch as they do not mount briefly as disks during sync.

So, I did a bit of reading and am now using the "Sync & Scrobble" script created by a German Last.fm user. It works well but does require manual activation, however it's currently the best (only?) solution.

http://julian-heidenreich.net/syncandscrobble/

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Post by offyoutoddle »

just got around to replacing my ipod touch - finally found one in the new Apple Store at Lakeside. It's a week 39, and it seems great.

Now, the question is to jailbreak or not to jailbreak....
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Of course you jailbreak. Voiding the warranty is half the fun.
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hmmm. one aborted attempt so far - jailbreak batch file just sat there and ignored the ipod. One pant filling restore later, I'm back to square one, minus a long sync I need to do. Oh well, it could have gone a lot worse I suppose.....
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I've had the iPod Touch for about a week now, having switched from a new Classic. While all the other stuff is very cool (have jailbreaked, and went through the process to add the iPhone apps), I'm having a hard time accepting the sound quality. To my ears, there is a constant low hiss, and it just doesn't sound as good. I thought I was going completely crazy, but then I ran across this review.

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/ipod/r ... gb-16gb/P5

When it discusses sound quality, it pretty much describes what I'm experiencing, and I never thought my ears were that great. I use the Shure SE210 in-ear headphones, which are excellent, but they pick up everything.

Am I nuts? I can adjust to not having the capacity to carry my collection, but this has me considering returning it and rebuying the Classic. Nevermind that I rarely use the iPod in conditions where I'd be focusing on the hiss, but I can't get comfortable with it yet. Has anyone else gone through this?
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I'm not affected by this, as I don't notice it.

However, it has been reported as a bug (#5485588) but marked by Apple as "behaves correctly". So they are aware of it but have given it the OK.

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tufty wrote:
Kemper_Boyd wrote:I think it's more likely than not. The hardware necessary to put a PC in your pocket is coming soon. Most other PC manufacturers will use it why wouldn't Apple?
KB, you're a bastard. An utter cunt. My hopes for a newton replacement are now well and truly got up. The only question now is, do I replace the shagged batteries in my Newt's power pack, or just wait for Apple to release the damn thing?

Apple have everything needed to do this. They have an OS that can run on the required hardware. They have the hardware. And they have the best handwriting recognition system ever released on a PDA, integrated into the OS.

Newton was way ahead of its time when it was discontinued 9 years ago. It's still way better than any modern PDA I've seen, despite being greenscale and requiring some hackery to make it sync with the modern desktop. I still use my MP2100 on a daily basis.

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Some time ago over in the Eee thread I wrote this:
Kemper_Boyd wrote:I think Apple will launch a UMPC/MID in 2008. It won't be as cheap
as some of the systems, but there's no reason it shouldn't be
significantly cheaper than a MacBook.

Putting it very simply the Eee is based upon crap laptop parts.
Intel is building parts specifically for such systems. They will be
faster, lower power and cheap. They'll get about 2,000 dies from
a single wafer. Intel think that the Silverthorne processor is as
important as Nehalem. If they are right this will be a huge
new market.

OS X on the iPhone and iPod Touch shows that Apple have the OS
software ready, the annoucement of the SDK shows Apple are willing
to have third party software on their 'appliances'. Why wouldn't Apple
want a shot at this? The opportunity is huge.
Some news from Appleinsider.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07 ... tform.html
Appleinsider wrote:People familiar with the matter tell AppleInsider that Apple will soon emerge as one of the largest supporters of Intel's "Menlow" Mobile Internet Device (MID) platform -- the same platform the Santa Clara-based chipmaker has been harping about for the past several months.

More specifically, those same people say, Apple has taken a liking to the upcoming 45-nanometer (nm) "Silverthorne" chip, agreeing to use it in not one but multiple products currently situated on its 2008 calendar year product roadmap.

Introduced at this year's Spring Intel Developer Forum (IDF) with availability slated for early 2008, Silverthorne is aimed specifically at cell phones, ultra-mobile PCs and other MIDs. The chip is expected to be as fast as the second-generation of Pentium M processors, but use only between half a watt and 2 watts of electrical power -- about one tenth as much as a typical notebook chip.
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I don't think I'd want an Apple device running on one of these chips but don't Intel have a load of other companies signed up to make small Linux boxes (Like the Nokia tablets but better)?
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HGFB wrote:I don't think I'd want an Apple device running on one of these chips but don't Intel have a load of other companies signed up to make small Linux boxes (Like the Nokia tablets but better)?
I don't know if anyone has announced anything, but I'm sure there will
be lots of them. I will be amazed if by mid 2008 there's not a Silverthorne
based Eee. Another thing we are likely to see is smaller, cheaper, lower
power Windows Home Server boxes using Menlow. I think we may see
Menlow based SBCs aimed at router type applications like those from
Soekris and PC Engines. We might see Pico ITX SFF as well.

I'd love to have Ubuntu Server on a very low power SFF box, rather than
a full size PC, Ubuntu Mobile on a handheld, and I'd like Ubuntu Desktop
on a silent solid-state box. I think there's a good chance of getting all
three without spending a fortune in 2008. :)

Specification:
The Menlow plaform has two main parts.

Silverthorne CPU.

0.9(LV) -- 1.86 GHz
0.6(LV) -- 1.33 GHz EIST
64bit
HT (simultaneous multi-threading)
533 MHz FSB
512k L2 Cache
In-order
SSSE3
VT (virtualisation)
0.6 -- 2 Watt TDP
New low power states, lowest C6 state 0.1 W

Poulsbo chipset.
SM3.0 IGP
Decode acceleration of MPEG2, MPEG4-AVC, VC1

Currently McCaslin has a TDP of 10W, 2W average. Menlow should
come in around TDP 3W and 0.85W. The Eee is similar to McCaslin
and probably around 14W and 3W.
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