Coronavirus Pandemic

[tufty]

Last year before to go to Brazil I had the full 20 days course of Malarone .. does this make me more protected ??? ( anti-malaria vaccine ).

More protected against malaria, perhaps.

I took some aspirin last year, does this mean I won't get a headache today?

[gilesgoat]

Last year before to go to Brazil I had the full 20 days course of Malarone .. does this make me more protected ??? ( anti-malaria vaccine ).

More protected against malaria, perhaps.

I took some aspirin last year, does this mean I won't get a headache today?

There's a difference, a vaccine 'trains' your immune system to a certain antibode response, an aspirin not.

If by absurdity, that I don't think it's the case but, the Covid-19 would have some 'affinity' to Malaria maybe it could help ?

Anyway your question about the aspirin could be hard to reply to .. has it have been experimented or verified or also "depends on what causes your headache ?".

[tufty]

There's a difference, a vaccine 'trains' your immune system to a certain antibode response, an aspirin not.

Yep, but anti-malarials are not primarily anti-virals, they're anti-parasites, given that malaria is spread by parasites and not viruses. Anti-malarials generally aren't vaccines, either - Malarone certainly isn't, which is why you take a tablet every day and continue to do so on return.

Some anti-malarials, notably chloroquine, also have an antiviral effect; this is presumably why it was in the list of things that have been tested against this particular virus. And whilst there is some indication, in, as far as I can tell, one very small scale test, that it may have an effect in treating the virus, there's no indication of any prophylactic effect against it.

And Malarone doesn't contain chloroquine anyway.

In an unrelated note, certain other anti-malarials of the synthetic quinine type, which are unsurprisingly no longer used, have the amusing side effect of turning the patient red, blue, or yellow. Permanently.

[gilesgoat]

There's a difference, a vaccine 'trains' your immune system to a certain antibode response, an aspirin not.

Yep, but anti-malarials are not primarily anti-virals, they're anti-parasites, given that malaria is spread by parasites and not viruses. Anti-malarials generally aren't vaccines, either - Malarone certainly isn't, which is why you take a tablet every day and continue to do so on return.

Some anti-malarials, notably chloroquine, also have an antiviral effect; this is presumably why it was in the list of things that have been tested against this particular virus. And whilst there is some indication, in, as far as I can tell, one very small scale test, that it may have an effect in treating the virus, there's no indication of any prophylactic effect against it.

And Malarone doesn't contain chloroquine anyway.

In an unrelated note, certain other anti-malarials of the synthetic quinine type, which are unsurprisingly no longer used, have the amusing side effect of turning the patient red, blue, or yellow. Permanently.

Yesterday after quite some time we did listen to Alex Johnes of Inforwars.com .. .. ..

.. it was "almost surreal" .. he was going on and on and on and on and on and on and on "againist everything and everyone" claiming that "the real solution" to the Cronovarius was to use some ZINC product that accidentally he sells on his own shop of course "best quality you can't find anywhere they don't give this in the hospitals BUT THEY KNOW but they WILL NOT GIVE IT TO YOU because it's for the ELITE".

Then it was going on about "colloidal silver" .. which again they sell "best quality you can't find it anywhere else" .. then he was going on about something with Oxygen and then lots and lots about "how good patriot Trump is" and he's absolutely right to put the finger on China etc. etc. etc.

But the "worrying part" was how he was insisting in this "miracolous property of Zinc" that should disintegrate the virus or shit like that ...

[Cloudane]

Was with my dad earlier and this happened (he's a bit nervous with all this at the mo)

Was there a particular reason why your father, who's in a vulnerable category, was accompanying you shopping, rather than staying at home and having you do the shopping on behalf of everyone?

The kids were being twats. No question.

But your father should surely not be placing himself in a situation where this could even be happening to him in the first place?

Vulnerable groups should remain at home, and you can do their shopping for them, yes?

Seriously, folks. This is not a game. Everyone needs to very rapidly appreciate the gravity of all this, pronto.

I agree and always offer to go and do any shopping myself and encourage the parents to stay at home and let me do it. But I don't see that it's possible to force him. At least until it becomes a legal obligation

[gravy]

I agree and always offer to go and do any shopping myself and encourage the parents to stay at home and let me do it. But I don't see that it's possible to force him. At least until it becomes a legal obligation

But that's why it'll become a legal obligation.

[Cloudane]

It'll probably only become a legal obligation for over 70s at first. Which is stupid as the age of heightened risk is around 60.

[gravy]

It'll probably only become a legal obligation for over 70s at first. Which is stupid as the age of heightened risk is around 60.

Your old man shouldn't be going out. Honestly, if not for his own health then at the least to reduce the potential burden on the NHS

[Cloudane]

It'll probably only become a legal obligation for over 70s at first. Which is stupid as the age of heightened risk is around 60.

Your old man shouldn't be going out. Honestly, if not for his own health then at the least to reduce the potential burden on the NHS

I know. You're preaching to the choir.

[Orava]

There's a difference, a vaccine 'trains' your immune system to a certain antibode response, an aspirin not.

Yep, but anti-malarials are not primarily anti-virals, they're anti-parasites, given that malaria is spread by parasites and not viruses. Anti-malarials generally aren't vaccines, either - Malarone certainly isn't, which is why you take a tablet every day and continue to do so on return.

Some anti-malarials, notably chloroquine, also have an antiviral effect; this is presumably why it was in the list of things that have been tested against this particular virus. And whilst there is some indication, in, as far as I can tell, one very small scale test, that it may have an effect in treating the virus, there's no indication of any prophylactic effect against it.

And Malarone doesn't contain chloroquine anyway.

In an unrelated note, certain other anti-malarials of the synthetic quinine type, which are unsurprisingly no longer used, have the amusing side effect of turning the patient red, blue, or yellow. Permanently.

Yesterday after quite some time we did listen to Alex Johnes of Inforwars.com .. .. ..

.. it was "almost surreal" .. he was going on and on and on and on and on and on and on "againist everything and everyone" claiming that "the real solution" to the Cronovarius was to use some ZINC product that accidentally he sells on his own shop of course "best quality you can't find anywhere they don't give this in the hospitals BUT THEY KNOW but they WILL NOT GIVE IT TO YOU because it's for the ELITE".

Then it was going on about "colloidal silver" .. which again they sell "best quality you can't find it anywhere else" .. then he was going on about something with Oxygen and then lots and lots about "how good patriot Trump is" and he's absolutely right to put the finger on China etc. etc. etc.

But the "worrying part" was how he was insisting in this "miracolous property of Zinc" that should disintegrate the virus or shit like that ...

Colloidal silver, well if you want to turn yourself into a smurf

https://www.google.com/search?q=colloid ... 83&bih=708

[KlaxonCow]

I agree and always offer to go and do any shopping myself and encourage the parents to stay at home and let me do it. But I don't see that it's possible to force him. At least until it becomes a legal obligation

I would suggest ruthless emotional blackmail and ceaseless nagging.

[Misfit]

I agree and always offer to go and do any shopping myself and encourage the parents to stay at home and let me do it. But I don't see that it's possible to force him. At least until it becomes a legal obligation

I would suggest ruthless emotional blackmail and ceaseless nagging.

There seems to be a lot in the 70+ age range who think they're immune/know better/don't give a f**k.

My wife has been in tears multiple time with her father who refuses to take it seriously and wanders down to the shops daily for a chat with people. And the idiot has medical training, he's an ex dentist.

We have friends having similar battles. They seem to miss the point that it's not just about them.

[Baggypants]

How's the disaster porn thread going?

If only there was some higher power that could save us

To die is gain.

[MattyP]

They seem to miss the point that it's not just about them.

That is a general problem with society these days unfortunately as demonstrated by the empty supermarket shelves. People are selfish.

[Cloudane]

To be fair he is taking it super seriously. The "supermarket hunt" instinct is the hardest one to shake off but the message is getting across. It'd be a LOT easier for us all if the delivery windows for Tesco and Asda weren't "some time in about 2-3 weeks"