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Mark wrote: For a bunch of reasons (not all of them within my power to change) you will probably take hits that you have little chance of avoiding (unless you're an absolute demon with the shield). Once you know how the enemies behave you can lessen that considerably, but it'll probably still happen from time to time. The game has been designed with that in mind though - hence the recharging health system. Also bullets do very little damage generally, so you should only really have a real problem with bullet damage with enemies that spam loads of the things, and they should behave more predictably anyway.

The Plasma Arc takes a bit of getting used to, but the pay-off is that it can be incredibly useful - especially later on. The best way to use it is to aim at the target using your regular bullets, then double-tap the toggle button with enough of a delay to allow one shot of plasma arc out. The plasma arc doesn't inflict a massive amount of damage to any one target but will hurt everything in its blast radius equally. So generally one shot does what you want - clears most regular enemies, or stuns bigger ones. For big enemies your cannon or lasers will be more effective at finishing it off quickly.
Thanks for the detailed explanation - thought I was losing my edge there. What's left of it :)

Will spend some more time with it now the mechanics are clearer.
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Felt pretty much the same as Rod, Mark.

It's fucking beautiful looking, man but there's little compelling that I can glean from the demo. Most of the time I felt like the enemies were just ganging up on me because otherwise it'd be too easy to take out the sucky things. I know that *is* the whole point, but I'm meant to feel like I'm engaged in a battle to the death as opposed to a bumraping if that makes any sense outside of my head?

Having said that, I played through the demo about 4 times so there's something there. But I just dunno! I'm not sure if I like it or I'm just wowed by the pretties... definitely going to go and have more time with it later and see if it falls into place.
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Sadly for me it felt a bit "woolly" control wise but I'll give it a few more tries before I make up my mind for sure
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oddbob0 wrote:Felt pretty much the same as Rod, Mark.

It's fucking beautiful looking, man but there's little compelling that I can glean from the demo. Most of the time I felt like the enemies were just ganging up on me because otherwise it'd be too easy to take out the sucky things. I know that *is* the whole point, but I'm meant to feel like I'm engaged in a battle to the death as opposed to a bumraping if that makes any sense outside of my head?

Having said that, I played through the demo about 4 times so there's something there. But I just dunno! I'm not sure if I like it or I'm just wowed by the pretties... definitely going to go and have more time with it later and see if it falls into place.
Glad you like the prettiness - the guys responsible did a hell of a job. :)

FWIW - the other enemies fuel your secondary weapons without which you'll have a devil of a job surviving later on. The demo isn't going to show that - it's shorter than I'd have liked which wasn't my call, but I probably wouldn't have made it long enough to make it much more apparent tbh, so there's a lesson learnt. Not enough tutorial is another, I reckon...
Deckard wrote:Sadly for me it felt a bit "woolly" control wise but I'll give it a few more tries before I make up my mind for sure
My major fear with PuF was pissing off real shoot-em-up fans, and I think I probably will have done to some extent. The game is a little woolly in some areas - as I said it's been designed to (hopefully) cope with that as much as possible, but I think people expecting or wanting something very tight and controlled are going to be put off. Overall, I'm pretty sure that good players will rise to the top which is hopefully some measure of a need for a good degree of skill to persevere (and the current high-score is already above what I can achieve :oops: ).

Ta for the feedback, and any more you have is appreciated. I'm making this shit up as I go along a lot of the time quite frankly, so any pointers as to how to do it better next time are always helpful. :D
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I was going to buy Power Up Forever anyway, but it's always nice to see that my money is going to support Llamasoftie games. Or would that be YakYaker? :)

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Has a load of content been removed from the demo download section of something?

I can't even find a gears of war demo on there. :?
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Chunk wrote:I can't even find a gears of war demo on there. :?
There never was one.
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teamonkey wrote:
Chunk wrote:I can't even find a gears of war demo on there. :?
There never was one.
Pants.

That'll be why then. Maybe I over estimated the number of demos etc available.
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Rod_S wrote:[Thanks for the detailed explanation - thought I was losing my edge there. What's left of it :).
Edge? Ah yeah I remember I had one of those once. Seem to remember I lost mine when I stopped playing Defender on an daily basis :(
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I've had a look around for an answer to this, but there seems to be a mix of responses.

If you get the play and charge kit for the 360 pad, can you use the cable to connect the controller to a PC or does the cable only allow charging?

If it only allows charging, I'm assuming someone has created a thrid party wireless dongle or something for your PC that will pick up the signal that the xbox controller sends.

I'm basically tired of changing batteries on my xbox pad and thinking of getting a rechargeable kit.
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The cable itself will charge the controller, but the PC won't recognise it. If, however, you pick up the Windows wireless X360 controller dongle, the driver disk it comes with will rectify that situation, and you'll have a wired/wireless controller talking to your PC.

Wireless receiver works on a Mac, as well...
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So basically:
If you get the play and charge kit for the 360 pad, can you use the cable to connect the controller to a PC
No.
or does the cable only allow charging?
Yes. Only allows charging.
If it only allows charging, I'm assuming someone has created a thrid party wireless dongle or something for your PC that will pick up the signal that the xbox controller sends.
Correct. Its called "X360 controller dongle" and comes bundled with a handy driver.

Thanks. :P
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Chunk wrote:So basically:
If you get the play and charge kit for the 360 pad, can you use the cable to connect the controller to a PC
No.
No. I think what he's saying is that you can connect them, but Windows won't auto-detect and install it.

However: The drivers you need are available on Microsoft's website. Once you install them, it should work.

I've never actually done this stuff myself, for various reasons, but I'm pretty sure it works?
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Fraid not. The charge cable plugged into a wireless 360 pad does not make it work on a PC, because it only charges, there's no data lines in it. A wired 360 pad works on the PC off the bat, but you need a dongle to make the wireless ones work, charge cable or not.
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Tomorrow's XBLA release is apparently Dash of Destruction, which is free, as it's sponsored by Doritos. The game's about delivering Doritos, while avoiding a dinosaur. Or the other way around. Or something.
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