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Saw The Apprentice, the partial biopic of Trump in his early years.
You can see that that he was originally destined to be some kind of lower end scumbag landlord and not much else.
The kind who comes to fix a leak in your bathroom himself and does a half-assed job of it where it breaks down again within days
because he's too cheap to pay for a plumber and a replacement part.
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So Trump's nominated a vaccine sceptic as Health Secretary.

Therefore, if a new pandemic - or some worsening change for Covid - occurs, then America will become the world's leper colony.

As was covered in that Legal Eagle video, many nominees have also now started openly admitting that, since they've now won the election and no longer have to deny it, "Project 2025" was always the agenda all along.

And I just want you to think about the slightly evil arrogance of that.

That during the election campaign, it was all "Project 2025? Don't know what you're talking about". But now they've won, they are not just admitting that was always the plan, but are essentially gloating about it: "fooled you! Project 2025 was always the goal! Yes, I am openly admitting that I lied to your face during the campaign to sneak this shit past you and because I've won and you can't do anything about it now, I'm totally gloating to your face that I lied to you and you fell for it, you useful idiots!".

Because if they're absolutely 100% happy to do that, instantly admitting that they were deliberately deceiving the electorate as to their intention (because "fuck you, we won and you can't undo it now"), then we're likely in for one hell of a ride for the next 4 years (at least, Trump's got form on refusing to leave office, as we know).

The hope now is that they're too incompetent to pull off "Project 2025" within 4 years, because it's basically a plan for a horridly regressive theocratic take-over of America.

The "Handmaid's Tale" made real. Banning abortion, banning pornography, banning transgenderism, likely banning gay marriage and much more besides. "Make America Great Again" is basically turning the entire country Amish, essentially. Denying science, denying modern medicine, denying evolution, making women men's "property" again, undoing hard-won human rights. Just rewind the clock back to 1776. I wonder if they'll work their way to legalising racial slavery and segregation again.

This is bad. This is very bad.
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Trump has given his first speech, has already mentioned putting an end to “child sexual mutilation” (dog whistle for “trans”) and stood behind a podium with “America First” printed on it.

The one tiny glimmer of hope is that Trump hates taking responsibility for anything, so when people start blaming him for the fact their kid has died of measles in a couple years time he’ll replace the most damaging of his picks with people marginally less incompetent.

Yeah, for a given value of “hope”.
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His picks are utterly bonkers. About the only one so far that's even half way sane is Mike Waltz.
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I just found out he picked Robert Kennedy Junior as Health Secretary
Besides a political battle over the Covid and other vaccines the 'Fluor in tap Water' will be back. :roll:
I just don't think those things should be discussed and decided at a political level.
It should be scientific, using available facts of pros and contras, and making an educated decision.
For the 21 years I lived in California I heard the debate about the Fluor and I only heard a few people presenting facts. Most were just political about. That's the wrong way to decide something.

Note: I a kind of grew up with Fluor in the water, that means I was about 6-7 years when they started using it. I never had a cavity but again my paternal grandmother, her own father, and my father's brother never had them. My father and my brother did. I don't know if genetics has something to do with it.
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I'd suggest genetics has a lot to do with it. In fact, I'm starting to think that, unless you do something actively harmful to yourself (I'll suggest cigarettes here, but there are many) then genetics is probably mostly to do with it - we are, after all, essentially a copy of half of our father and half of our mother.

I'm just thinking about things (as I do). First off. America - FFS! Second off, people talk about the ignorance of Facts. Let me just present you two, that can both be proven to be true (at the same time, even), and are almost exactly diametrically opposed:

a) The economy is vibrant, thriving and booming like it hasn't been in a while!
b) My wallet is empty.

I think there's a substantial number of votes from the b) side of the fence here, and the reason for the empty wallets is a combination of wage stagnation over the last... well, 16 years, really... and the much more recent dramatic rise in their weekly grocery bills. Something had to give. BTW, I don't think these factors are just US ones.
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You know what?

Most people instinctively know that neo-liberalism is BAD.
Trouble is, neo-liberalism is too many syllables for most people, so they shorten it to liberal, or lib.

That's why we're so fucked.
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He's a master of personality cult.



Stop giving him credence you eejits.
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So Biden what are you doing with this Trump idea of pardoning people (especially when its your own son) ? Oh DEAR.
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Deckard wrote:So Biden what are you doing with this Trump idea of pardoning people (especially when its your own son) ? Oh DEAR.
It's not a Trump idea. It's been going on forever. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... ted_States

In this case, the optics aren't great, especially as he'd said he wouldn't do it, but in the grand scheme of things, it's not going to make any difference to what Trump is going to do.
What it will do is get his son out of the firing line of the politicised justice system Trump is bent on putting into place, and frankly, saving his life.

Remember, Trump is putting people he's pardoned into positions of power. And also remember that the Supreme Court ruled that the president has the right to order the assassination of his political opponents; that's where Biden is letting us all down.
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It seems that a few world leaders are having meeting with Trump today, sponsored by Macron.
It seems the EU leadership won't be there.
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PFVA wrote:It seems that a few world leaders are having meeting with Trump today, sponsored by Macron.
It seems the EU leadership won't be there.
As they are there for the reopening of Notre Dame
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