Football: Season 2004/5 Discussion Thread.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:25 pm 0

Furious. Can't say much more just now.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:32 pm 0

I have yet to see MOTD, but my friend who was watching the TV insists Kluivert was never offside in a million years - although he looked well off from where I was sitting in the Gallowgate end. And if it was a penalty then he's Belgian.

Ref decided to let the game flow whateverthefuck, and we didn't work it out as early as they did, so we got kicked everywhere. Added two notches to my hatred of Christiano Diving Git Ronaldo. How the linesmen let him get away with it I have no idea.

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:12 am 0

Baros

No proven strikers for the next 7 games, one of which is Arsenal, 2 others Monaco and Olympiakos

It's going to be a long, tough run up Christmas. Just hope we can come thorugh that period with a bit of dignity still intact

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:30 am 0

Ouch, that's harsh.

To end the Newcastle-Man U discussion, MOTD showed that he was right about the offside. Penalty was 50/50 though. If O'Brien hadn't tried to stay on his feet it probably would have been a free kick.

aureole · Post by **aureole** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:44 am 0

Seriously, what's happening with Mellor at the moment then? Looks like you could be without any forwards at all (although I'd like to see how Kewell works pushing up as a forward).

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:56 am 0

aureole wrote:Seriously, what's happening with Mellor at the moment then? Looks like you could be without any forwards at all (although I'd like to see how Kewell works pushing up as a forward).

Not sure how it's going to work to be honest. I guess RB could play Kewell and Garcia up front or Kewell and Mellor and have Garcia just behind them. Dunno. It's difficult. Mellor's an out and out but unproven striker (at this level), whereas the other two are time-served 'forwards' that have got to step up big time now. Then there's Sinama Pongolle as well.

Either way, there's a group of players there who are either complaining about not getting a game, on the fringes or need to prove themselves. Now's their chance so the 'benefit' out of this mess for Rafa is he'll have a much better idea about who will stay and who will be off by January.

IMHO, of course

aureole · Post by **aureole** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:10 pm 0

I don't really rate Sinama Pongolle - saw him play once or twice. Hasn't Kewell played up front before? Mellor should do alright once he's got a little more confidence - he did well against us in the Carling cup

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:57 pm 0

aureole wrote:I don't really rate Sinama Pongolle - saw him play once or twice. Hasn't Kewell played up front before? Mellor should do alright once he's got a little more confidence - he did well against us in the Carling cup

Aah: that'd be Boro then? Got you again tomorrow: not looking forward to that one (see above

) Hopefully we'll get a point ...

Yeah: Pongolle's allegedly one of those making noises about getting off he doesnt get a regular start. Problem with that is, he hasnt played well when he's been on so, as I said above, this is his opportunity to prove everyone wrong. And yeah: Kewell's been up front as well but I wouldn't class him as an out and out striker. Plus, he's not exactly on top form. And again: he's got something to prove, IMO.

We're 'making do' at the moment. Just hope we're still in the top half by Christmas, is all

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:20 pm 0

Apparently Souness has unofficially (ie - he'll do them properly when the transfer window opens) came to terms with Man U for John O'Shea for Â£4m and Jean Alain Boumsong of Rangers for Â£5m.

Stay away from Boumsong, we need him!!!

aureole · Post by **aureole** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:27 pm 0

KevG wrote: Aah: that'd be Boro then? Got you again tomorrow: not looking forward to that one (see above ) Hopefully we'll get a point ...

Watched 'boro / 'pool last year, froze my arse off to a 0-0 draw. I *think* a draw looks likely again. Mind you, at least we aren't playing bloody Ricketts up front again, so there may be goals in it this year.

KevG wrote: Yeah: Pongolle's allegedly one of those making noises about getting off he doesnt get a regular start. Problem with that is, he hasnt played well when he's been on so, as I said above, this is his opportunity to prove everyone wrong. And yeah: Kewell's been up front as well but I wouldn't class him as an out and out striker. Plus, he's not exactly on top form. And again: he's got something to prove, IMO.

I dunno, it often doesn't work out. People aren't in the squad for a reason, occasional good games notwithstanding.

KevG wrote: We're 'making do' at the moment. Just hope we're still in the top half by Christmas, is all

I'm sure you'll be "turning corners" again before too long

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KevG · Post by **KevG** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:38 pm 0

aureole wrote: Watched 'boro / 'pool last year, froze my arse off to a 0-0 draw. I *think* a draw looks likely again. Mind you, at least we aren't playing bloody Ricketts up front again, so there may be goals in it this year.

Boro look a much different prospect this year - which troubles me a bit

aureole wrote: I'm sure you'll be "turning corners" again before too long .

It'll be a few years yet before that phrase is expunged from the collective footy memory

At least Rafa hasnt used it yet

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:31 pm 0

Zen-Chan wrote:Apparently Souness has unofficially (ie - he'll do them properly when the transfer window opens) came to terms with Man U for John O'Shea for Â£4m and Jean Alain Boumsong of Rangers for Â£5m.

Stay away from Boumsong, we need him!!!

Wouldn't be unhappy with O' Shea at all. Not sure about Boumsong, I haven't seen much of him, but it's hard to imagine him being worse, or even only equal to what we've already got!

cyric100 · Post by **cyric100** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:33 pm 0

KevG wrote:Baros

No proven strikers for the next 7 games, one of which is Arsenal, 2 others Monaco and Olympiakos

Hmm, Spurs may yet have a chance in the Carling Cup...

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:25 pm 0

PaulEMoz wrote:
Zen-Chan wrote:Apparently Souness has unofficially (ie - he'll do them properly when the transfer window opens) came to terms with Man U for John O'Shea for Â£4m and Jean Alain Boumsong of Rangers for Â£5m.

Stay away from Boumsong, we need him!!!
Wouldn't be unhappy with O' Shea at all. Not sure about Boumsong, I haven't seen much of him, but it's hard to imagine him being worse, or even only equal to what we've already got!

Keep going...... by the time he's finished, Newcastle will be a team full of Man Utd has-beens

cyric100 · Post by **cyric100** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:54 pm 0

Zoot wrote: Keep going...... by the time he's finished, Newcastle will be a team full of Man Utd has-beens

Yeah, isn't Giggs out of contract soon?