Fuck this place

[grue]

*Looks around*
Rolls away thinking "Another one of those, it will pass"

[disciple]

Well I think that's a fucking shame. I really enjoy The Rev's posts.
Congratulations on finally hounding him out of here to all those who've been hell bent on doing so from the start.

Ditto.

Sorry but I really don't like this because you're apportioning blame on people without actually knowing what's gone on.

Care to enlighten us then?

On what?

[~D4T45H4T~]

On the subject of this thread, I'd just like to point here:

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?p=9 ... nts#944602

Haddock is £2.67 in Tesco at the moment.

Okay.........


<backs slowly away>

"What's that got to do with the price of fish?"

[Njal]

/me looks at threads

*sigh* Shit-slinging season again.

/me closes door quietly

[zip accident]

~D4T45H4T~ wrote:

Haddock is £2.67 in Tesco at the moment.

I think the phrase that pays in this case is:

What's that got to do with the price of fish?

Meaning, I think, that PVB's link was irrelevant. I'm not sure it was, there was something about people leaving being disappointing, but that's my guess for what was meant.

Heh, too late, but anyway.

[RageMatrix]

~D4T45H4T~ wrote:

Haddock is £2.67 in Tesco at the moment.

I think the phrase that pays in this case is:

What's that got to do with the price of fish?

Meaning, I think, that PVB's link was irrelevant. I'm not sure it was, there was something about people leaving being disappointing, but that's my guess for what was meant.

Heh, too late, but anyway.

If you mean this link: -

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?p=9 ... nts#944602

I think it was this bit that was relevant: -

Heated arguments, usually because one or more people won't accept another person's viewpoint.
People leaving the forums for good. Whatever the reason, it feels like losing a friend.

...but I could be wrong...

[Spirit]

*Looks around*

I think I'll just go over here... *points*

[Samus]

Y'know, it's more trouble than it's worth. I'm sure you'll all struggle on without me and my evil ways. See some of y'all around somewhere more civilised, and less mean-spirited and spiteful.

I think that's a good decision for you, it's just not worth it.

Still, from a personal view, I'd like to see Stu post here. He is one of the biggest reasons for me checking this place once in a while. Respect.

[Kronos]

I'm a big fan of remakes of old games, on two conditions - that the author doesn't steal the credit for inventing the game, and that they don't charge for it.

Geometry Wars: RE is not an old game, is it?

Just thought I should clear that up.

Not being funny, but if you make what is essenitally a carbon copy of a currently for sale game, you really shouldn't be surprised if you get your wrists slapped for it.

Ummmm Gird Wars 2 and Grid Assault are lovingly created PC games, homebrew too and free. GeometryWars can only be played on a 360 so....... it's a bit OTT for Microsoft to do that IMO. Infact how about using the legal money to make a second game worth £49.99 on that pile of shit sitting in my living room

Yeh it's free with PGR3 but as that's such a yawn fest of a driving game and costs 2 weeks worth of ciggys...um yeah anyway....

Rev is good for heated debates, it's fun to watch the arguments that ensue, he's a fiesty lil scottish fish that one! Anyway clicked all 3 links and I can't see any fireworks....except in the actual thread about fireworks!!

[zip accident]

RageMatrix wrote:

this bit

I agree.

[RageMatrix]

RageMatrix wrote:

this bit

I agree.

Did I post The Extremely Obvious(tm) again? I couldn't quite tell from your post, re-reading it.

[PVB]

If you mean this link: -

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?p=9 ... nts#944602

I think it was this bit that was relevant: -

Heated arguments, usually because one or more people won't accept another person's viewpoint.
People leaving the forums for good. Whatever the reason, it feels like losing a friend.

...but I could be wrong...

Nope, that's why the link highlighted those two words.

Never mind, nobody listens to me anyway.

[Yak]

I said at the time (and got a fair bit of grief for it IIRC) that I thought that Geom Wars clone was a bit dodgy because it was cloning a game that had only just been released. I know I'd be gutted if someone did that to one of *my* XBLA games.

Maybe there are plans for a PC release of Geom Wars - and if so I can't think of MS being the bad guys if they wish to ensure that the PC verion that gets released is the *actual* version of the game and not some clone.

Simply because a clone is released "for free" does not make it OK, if the original creators of the game that has been cloned have their own plans for a release.

Like I said, I'd be gutted if it happened to me, and I felt quite uncomfortable about it when for a while the whold Grid Wars appreciation society appeared to move en masse to Yakyak :/.

[RageMatrix]

Never mind, nobody listens to me anyway.

Sure they do, yer big daftie! Probably would have been easier to type "heated arguments", tho

[Mark]

He'll be sorely missed by me.

The below is all IMO, probably based more on other forums than YakYak (but here too nonetheless), and there are probably gross generalisations, and a fair bit of guesswork, but I've had more than a few beers and this is what I'm thinking.

The Rev wears his heart on his sleeve and speaks his mind. Good traits. He sets his stall out very plainly - he's generally brutally honest, and frequently distills his opinion into black and white. The world isn't B&W though. But he's trying to provoke a response, and this is a bloody good way to get one. I wouldn't do it myself, but then I can't be bothered with arguing on forums anymore anyway.

On top of that I think he tends to lay traps for people to blunder into - the odd phrase here and there that looks like it's susceptible to argument - it almost never is, in my experience. Again, I'm not condoning it.

Stu's forthright tone and outspoken manner, and possibly the traps I suspect he's laid, goad people (who are frequently looking to disagree with him, regardless of the issue) into rash responses.

The problem is The Rev is exceptionally good at having the facts straight (or at least being able to back up everything he originally said). And that really, REALLY pisses people off.

So they get involved in arguments, and they're frequently faced with the problem that they're wrong - often because they've just misunderstood what he'd actually said (which is why about 50% of his posts are along the lines of "Have you actually read what I fucking said?")

At this point they generally will not back down. It's an internet forum - people can't be seen to admit defeat or apologise (which is one of the reasons I post so infrequently on forums - it's usually not worth debating with people - if you happen to be right they'll dodge the issue, pick up on typos or technicalities - anything to avoid admitting that they've made a mistake, or even started to appreciate what you're getting at).

And so people tend to argue back regardless, and in doing so they give him a hell of a lot of ammunition to fight back with. And so he uses it. Angrily and well.

IMO it's frequently other people that are at fault for the shit-fights that ensue for rising to the bait (often out of spite rather than principle).

I don't pretend to agree with everything The Rev says, I'd question the motive behind some of his posts, and probably the tone of the vast majority of them, but he's passionate, committed, informed, interesting, entertaining and bloody good at swearing to boot.

As I said - I'll miss him.