Borderlands

[CarlBillen]

OK, Moe and Varley. Quest difficulty : Trivial. My level : 18.
Yeah right! YEAH RIGHT! I had to phasewalk my ass out of there several times to get away from team and heal.
Those are two very mean bastards!
I still haven't mastered the trick of shooting those Skags at the right time when they open their mouth "for massive damage", and you'd think you would have the hang of it after Skar and the 3 rounds in the Skag arena.

I did reach level 19 now and the only quest on my plate is the Sledge quest, I've done all the others up to now.

Got up to level 9 now.
That Skar was a right bastard.
Got some nice weapons now, too.

Have you met mr. Bone-Head yet? That might redifine your team of 'right bastard'

Yup, I died at the paws/jaws of Skar too... When I tried to kill him again, I found a nice rocky outcrop high up which allowed me to snipe him a few times before he got to me, that helps a little

Regarding the level difficulties : I always go for the lowest one; but when you're in Skag gully you'll meet plenty of critters of your own level and you'll level up nicely.

And I still enjoy splatting Skags on my car

[betamax]

Well, I solved the mystery of the missing gun parts- the compass only points at the general area they are in, not the specific. Doh.

[HGFB]

Right. The game can fuck off. It's retardedly difficult in places. At present the only quest I have of my level is the one to collect the parts of the sniper rifle (Basically at the other end of a zone from where you enter).

Start the zone. Stock up on consumables. Head out and the first fight you can't avoid. About 8 trillion tough skags. Kill those and restock. Bypass the second large group of skags with a bit of platforming. There's a group of bandits in a building. A couple of easy level 11s. A very tough level 13 bruiser and an extremely tough and shielded level 13 bandit. *And* at the same time you're being attacked by the group of bandits up a height in the town just up the road. I've tried loads of different tactics and none work.

Fucking game. It's deranged.

[CarlBillen]

Right. The game can fuck off. It's retardedly difficult in places. At present the only quest I have of my level is the one to collect the parts of the sniper rifle (Basically at the other end of a zone from where you enter).

Start the zone. Stock up on consumables. Head out and the first fight you can't avoid. About 8 trillion tough skags. Kill those and restock. Bypass the second large group of skags with a bit of platforming. There's a group of bandits in a building. A couple of easy level 11s. A very tough level 13 bruiser and an extremely tough and shielded level 13 bandit. *And* at the same time you're being attacked by the group of bandits up a height in the town just up the road. I've tried loads of different tactics and none work.

Fucking game. It's deranged.

I know what you mean. At the start of the Arid Foothills you see the machines that give you the 'green ammo stock upgrade' for 6100$ so that you can carry more ammo. Basically that's the hint that this level gives you : you needs lots of ammo.

I carried one weapon of every type so that if I ran out of ammo, I still had something else to shoot with. But that part of the game is really tough; first the two groups of skags, then the raised house, then the two guys on top of the "bridge", then the place with the bruisers (where the road turns to the right) and then another camp (where the parts are).

With my Lilith I often started running (remember that "press the left stick down and forward") and when a lot of people were shooting at me I would phasewalk and continue running forward; that way I could skip a camp or two. The actual area where the sniper rifle parts can be found is actually a little easier that the "Lvl.13 Bruiser camp" placed in the bend to the right. But the nice purple wepon is so much worth it (2.4x Zoom!). And you will be clearing that sniper rifle part camp anyway so you can loot quite a few bits of stuff there. If you continue along that canyon you will come to Sledge's safehouse (which is actually a gate to a new area) so you have a save point there and if I remember correctly two vending machines (there are definitely vending machines inside the start of Sledge's Safe House) so you can sell most of your unwanted stuff there and start the trek back. Sledge's safehouse is quite difficult (think about fighting those bruisers indoors instead of outdoors), but you can always use the vending machines even if you are a bit lower level (you don't have to do the Safehouse quest at that moment).

When I went back in that area at Level 19 for the Moe and Varley quest, I still ran past the mobs of skags and psycho/bruisers, because else I would waste too much ammo on all the enemies "in between".

What class/configuration are you playing HGFB?

[HGFB]

I'm a level 13 Brick with points currently in extra shields and defensive bonus when you kills something. The tank path. I've started playing with a friend now which is a lot more fun.

[Patashnik]

Loving this game so far. Looks like some of you are roughly the same kind of area as me.
Got my ass handed to me by those two giganto-skags in the Arid Hills last night - so have decided to go after Sledge instead.

Also got stumped by that Sniper rifle sight in the same area. Kept thinking the quest was bugged after reading different forum posts, so kept switching active quests and exiting and re-entering the area in the hope it would fix itself (as someone on - ung, Gamefaqs - had suggested) turned out it wasn't bugged after all, of course.

Started playing in co-op at the weekend in split screen, and am finding it pretty tough going playing solo. Ammo's my main problem right now. Sometimes when I die I end up pumping all my ammo away in a desparate attempt to get Second Wind - only to fail and respawn without any ammo...

Still, I'm a real sucked for the grind, so I can see myself really ploughing the hours into this...

[CarlBillen]

I'm currently looking like this : http://borderlandsthegame.com/skilltree ... 0000000000.
I'm next going for the Mind Games skill so that I have a chance to Daze enemies per bullet hit; I don't know what path to choose after that.

I'm a level 13 Brick with points currently in extra shields and defensive bonus when you kills something. The tank path. I've started playing with a friend now which is a lot more fun.

Something like this? : http://borderlandsthegame.com/skilltree ... 0000000000
I must admit, that Brick's Blaster tree looks pretty nice too (killing enemies result in replenishment of rockets). No wonder you need shields

[Bod]

OK, Moe and Varley. Quest difficulty : Trivial. My level : 18.
Yeah right! YEAH RIGHT! I had to phasewalk my ass out of there several times to get away from team and heal.
Those are two very mean bastards!

Strange! ... managed to pop the brains quite easily with my Lilith at level 19.

All you have to do is ...

Spoiler: show

kill off the normal scags until only the two big boys are left, then place yourself behind the dead tree at the top of the cliff that they live on. Wait for them to open their mouths (when they fire at you) and then blast them with a high damage sniper rifle.

[CarlBillen]

OK, Moe and Varley. Quest difficulty : Trivial. My level : 18.
Yeah right! YEAH RIGHT! I had to phasewalk my ass out of there several times to get away from team and heal.
Those are two very mean bastards!

Strange! ... managed to pop the brains quite easily with my Lilith at level 19.

All you have to do is ...

Spoiler: show

kill off the normal scags until only the two big boys are left, then place yourself behind the dead tree at the top of the cliff that they live on. Wait for them to open their mouths (when they fire at you) and then blast them with a high damage sniper rifle.

Well, Moe (the fire one) decided it would be far more fun to continously charge me instead of toasting me, while Varley zapped me from afar. Varley bit the dust first quite logically, but Moe, he was not fun.

Spoiler: show

It's not that easy to kill a big Skag if he doesn't open his mouth

But they're dead now so I'm happy

[betamax]

The only thing I've had trouble with so far is Sledge on my hunter- my Brick tore him apart like he was a normal mob.

I've taken Brick deep into the face punching tree and have a lightning relic equipped so shielded enemies are as dead as unshielded ones. I'll take the first few points in tank as well to get a bit more survivability. Oddly my favorite and most effective gun is a green Revolver with huge crit chance. I can do more damage with it than a rocket launcher and of course ammo for it is all over.

Tips for Skags: All skags over a certain level or threat level (Fire, poison, shock, badass and named) are based on the Alpha Skag model- I.E heavy armour on the head, soft portions on the back. So, the best thing to do is tease them into charging you, dodge, turn and unload your gun into its arse. Failing that, grab an acid gun (SMG is my fave) as this negates some of their head armour and does DOT.

[CarlBillen]

Tips for Skags: All skags over a certain level or threat level (Fire, poison, shock, badass and named) are based on the Alpha Skag model- I.E heavy armour on the head, soft portions on the back. So, the best thing to do is tease them into charging you, dodge, turn and unload your gun into its arse. Failing that, grab an acid gun (SMG is my fave) as this negates some of their head armour and does DOT.

I haven't had the pleasure of finding a corrosive shooty weapon yet; all my corrisove kills have been done by shooting barrels. So for the moment it's my low-damage, high clip Repeater and SMG that have fire damage which work quite well. The repeater is especially fun, 39-fire-bullet-clip = endless burning shooting

[Phineasfool]

Picked up a combat rifle off a mini boss character the other night that has clip size of 86. I haven't tried using it yet as I love using my shotgun. I did also get an orange revolver that regenerates ammo as fast as you can shoot it. There is also a revolver you get from a quest in the upper 20s to lower 30s that never uses ammo at all. You never even have to reload.

[HGFB]

I had a big three player co-op session today. Bloody awesome. We're now all in the second area about to take on Skagzilla.

[Phineasfool]

Just noticed while comparing trophies with Carl that it shows the DLC ones. Apparently Europe and Australia should have the DLC available very soon.

[PVB]

Currently level 11 and have just got the 8 seed things from Skag gully, along with some more weapons, including a Destructor that I may use on Bone-Head as he's next.

IIRC, this is my skill twig (not really a tree yet ):

http://downloads.2kgames.com/borderland ... 0001200000