Playstation VR

[oxo]

Slightly OT, but there's a couple of noticeable buys in the Sony Black Friday Deals.
Dirt Rally PS4 is £15.99
Odin Sphere Vita is £11.99

The rest of the deals are pretty shit in all honesty.

[fog]

More Pinball FX? Just what I need. Let battle commence

I bow to our pinball score overlord. I hope it's OK if I keep feeding the leaderboard with my puny scores.

1% skill 99% perseverance

[gilesgoat]

Yesterday I had a look at the PSVR store, there were maybe 3 titles that "could have had some attention" BUT they had no demo and the price was too high to say "oh let's buy and see".

I mean it would be OK IFF I know "ok the game is really something done/I like" .. but this is the problem with VR "a simple video says nothing much" especially when YOU KNOW that "what you see there is not like what you'll see in VR".

So the moment you are "over 20 something pounds" I think a demo is "almost necessary", I wonder if next SDK/docs Sony could put that down as "a must" I am actually tempted to suggest it because makes "impossible" to make "an informed choice".

[ edit ] - actually I just done it, writing 2 things simultaneously, I am going to write a 3rd and open a "feature request", it would be good if there would be a way to get "VR videos" you can watch on your PSVR and get a better idea of what you are going to buy.

[ edit 2 ] - blam done "Feature request" put into DevNet.

[oxo]

You're absolutely bang on Giles. The lack of PSVR demos on the PS Store is really poor.
I'm just not prepared to drop that sort of money on a game without having chance to try it first.

Reading across other forums lots of PSVR users were hoping some of the VR games would be in the Black Friday sale.
Unfortunately there isn't one on offer.
Poor show really and very disappointing.

[Misfit]

Reading across other forums lots of PSVR users were hoping some of the VR games would be in the Black Friday sale.
Unfortunately there isn't one on offer.
Poor show really and very disappointing.

The US has some offers I believe and as posted previously in this thread it's not too hard to get a US account sorted.

Carnival games is $9.99 on the US store and actually has some quite good reviews. for £8 I'm almost tempted, but my games spending is horrific of late...

[phattslagg]

Reading across other forums lots of PSVR users were hoping some of the VR games would be in the Black Friday sale.
Unfortunately there isn't one on offer.
Poor show really and very disappointing.

Unless you have a US account, where you can at least get Carnival Games cheap.

*edit - beat me to it

[gilesgoat]

You're absolutely bang on Giles. The lack of PSVR demos on the PS Store is really poor.
I'm just not prepared to drop that sort of money on a game without having chance to try it first.

Reading across other forums lots of PSVR users were hoping some of the VR games would be in the Black Friday sale.
Unfortunately there isn't one on offer.
Poor show really and very disappointing.

Don't forget I am a buyer as well, like any other, and when it comes down to spend some money for "something that should give you fun" you want to be sure is well spent money.

With VR "it's not like any other thing" ( TM Tom Cruise ) you have to see it with your own eyes to understand.

Example .. there's that "Eagle flight thing" .. you look at it "nice" but IIRC is 30 pounds .. than you look at it a bit more and is "yes but it's not a real flight simulator (*)" and then makes you immediately think "hang on, is it going to be good or it's going to be oh dear oh dear I can't stand 5 mins of this ?".

HOW can you possibly tell and even if it's not like that how you can you possibly tell "am I going to really like it or not ?"

You need to try "a VR sample" before to go I am not ready to throw 30 quid to a thing that looks "so dynamic" that you don't have a clue about how it feels ON YOU.

Would have been 15 .. 20 .. maybe say "ok can take a risk not too much" .. but 30 .. it's like "you better be real good" and also "don't know how much fun is really that ?" .. needs really a try ..

(*) we did try can't remember - Yak knows - what flight simulator with a "hack/patch/plugin" for OR someone made for it and it's FRAKING AWESOME, ANOTHER DIMENSION of "flying a simulator".

THAT is "almost natural place for VR" because works SO FUCKING WELL .. the the thing you can literally look around and check all your instruments/levers/etc. and you can even glance out of the windows it's .. AMAZING ..

Now a REAL GOOD flight simulator .. JUST WAITING FOR IT TO COME in VR, that would "an instant buy" even if it costs "more"

But yeah that works because fundamentally "you are always in your cockpit/seat" and you don't really turn so crazy like a car.

Said that one of the "worst/more terrible/intense/OH MY GOD" experiences of my life was crashing the airplane with OR.

That again is MENTAL .. "you don't know how a real crash my feel until you are in" .. at some point you really just "go bananez" and close you eyes and wait to the unavoidable because "it's too overwhelming" .. fucking crazy ..

I still don't understand well how "it's only images" and when the airplane lifts of for some seconds you really feel "some gravity" that is NOT there

[chub]

(*) we did try can't remember - Yak knows - what flight simulator with a "hack/patch/plugin" for OR someone made for it and it's FRAKING AWESOME, ANOTHER DIMENSION of "flying a simulator".

THAT is "almost natural place for VR" because works SO FUCKING WELL .. the the thing you can literally look around and check all your instruments/levers/etc. and you can even glance out of the windows it's .. AMAZING ..

Now a REAL GOOD flight simulator .. JUST WAITING FOR IT TO COME in VR, that would "an instant buy" even if it costs "more"

I'm eagerly waiting for a plane flying game on PSVR. The only one I know of is Ace Combat coming out next year. There are already several space-based cockpit games, but I want other types of cockpit games too.

I did buy that Space Rift Episode 1, as I wanted a more chilled out space game and it was relatively cheap. I don't recommend it though, as it's buggy as fuck. On the first chapter I encountered a game-breaking bug where the targeting system got jammed on one thing, so I couldn't continue until I had restarted the game. The in-game volume controls don't work, and the default volume is VERY LOUD, much more than other games. The audio is glitched, so it crackles and pops the whole time. I read somewhere that the devs won't fix the bugs as they are a small team and are working on Episode 2 instead.

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I'm eagerly waiting for a plane flying game on PSVR. The only one I know of is Ace Combat coming out next year. There are already several space-based cockpit games, but I want other types of cockpit games too.

War Thunder is getting a PSVR update. It's Free-to-Play and when I played it, admittedly a long time ago, you could get plenty of enjoyment without spending anything.

[Bod]

(*) we did try can't remember - Yak knows - what flight simulator with a "hack/patch/plugin" for OR someone made for it and it's FRAKING AWESOME, ANOTHER DIMENSION of "flying a simulator".

THAT is "almost natural place for VR" because works SO FUCKING WELL .. the the thing you can literally look around and check all your instruments/levers/etc. and you can even glance out of the windows it's .. AMAZING ..

I think it was FSX and Flyinside FSX on the Occy. it is pretty impressive.
I think Yak said he flew a helicopter and landed it in the sheepies field at the back of your gaff.

[koogy]

> I'm just not prepared to drop that sort of money on a game without having chance to try it first.

there were 8 or so PSVR consoles at the V&A on friday night for people to try out (part of this: https://www.vam.ac.uk/info/friday-late# ... lel-worlds )

"Games available to play include Ocean’s Descent, Battlezone, RIGS Mechanized Combat League, and London Heist."

queues were massive so i only got to see it in non-vr 1st person view on the monitors alongside the consoles. which didn't really look any different from every other first person thing - i guess it wouldn't. oddly, nobody seemed to be looking around much.

(elsewhere in the museum, 8 people at a time were playing Pico Park and that seemed much more 'fun')

[oxo]

> I'm just not prepared to drop that sort of money on a game without having chance to try it first.

there were 8 or so PSVR consoles at the V&A on friday night for people to try out (part of this: https://www.vam.ac.uk/info/friday-late# ... lel-worlds )

"Games available to play include Ocean’s Descent, Battlezone, RIGS Mechanized Combat League, and London Heist."

queues were massive so i only got to see it in non-vr 1st person view on the monitors alongside the consoles. which didn't really look any different from every other first person thing - i guess it wouldn't. oddly, nobody seemed to be looking around much.

(elsewhere in the museum, 8 people at a time were playing Pico Park and that seemed much more 'fun')

Demos like that at the V&A are a complete waste of time. a) we don't all live in London b) its aimed at the layman who probably doesn't have/ever seen a psvr.

What I meant is why don't all games come with a demo that you can at least try for 5 minutes before dropping cash.
The hard reality if they did that is that most games wouldn't sell as many as they usually would as people would discover the shite and only buy the quality games.

[RiK]

What I meant is why don't all games come with a demo that you can at least try for 5 minutes before dropping cash.
The hard reality if they did that is that most games wouldn't sell as many as they usually would as people would discover the shite and only buy the quality games.

That's true of all games, not just VR ones..

[gumboot]

Bring back covertapes!

[koogy]

> Demos like that at the V&A are a complete waste of time. a) we don't all live in London b) its aimed at the layman who probably doesn't have/ever seen a psvr.

it was obviously a roadshow setup, the kind of thing that will probably tour around other places *. i could imagine the same thing in a shopping centre, say. (somewhere probably not as nice as this was though - http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/galleries/ ... -cartoons/ )

and it was a game-themed event. those v&a lates do get a lot of casual visitors but there were obviously a lot of people there for the games (not least me). and the people, gamers or non-gamers seemed to enjoy it.

(it also helps get a lot of non-typical V&A audience into the V&A. the grime-themed night a few months ago was apparently heaving)

but, yeah, something to try on *your* setup would be good. and something where there isn't a queue of people waiting.

* it did - http://arstechnica.co.uk/gaming/2016/10 ... r-psvr-uk/