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Yeah, it doesn't make sense. The docs at the top of their game are obviously earning enough that they simply don't need to work past a certain age to maintain their lifestyle, and they've worked so damn hard earlier in their career that they're not gonna keep working for more money they essentially don't need.

Surely it would be better to invest this money in getting more doctors earlier on in their career so they're not so ridiculously over-worked and want to stop working earlier?
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Otherwise it's not "a place to live", it's a tourists trap and eventually even tourists will get tired of that.
Erm... a bit late for that.

At least in the areas you know.

It's full of hotels, B&Bs, airbnbs, and similar. It's also 'party' city style, full of bars, and wine bars, and lounge bars... and the old shops that used to exist have mostly vanished, of course there is international stores like Zara, Massimo Dutti, etc, etc. I haven't been there for a while but that's what everybody is telling me. One of these days I'll go check for myself.

TV says that property is being bought by foreigners, on top of the list, Chinese, Canadians, French, and Americans. And except for the French which are retiring here including a lot in my area, the others are doing it for investment purposes, specially tourism rental.

Note: however crossing the river on the commute boat is still cheap. Public transportation hasn't gone up that much.
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PFVA wrote:
gilesgoat wrote:
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Otherwise it's not "a place to live", it's a tourists trap and eventually even tourists will get tired of that.
Erm... a bit late for that.

At least in the areas you know.

It's full of hotels, B&Bs, airbnbs, and similar. It's also 'party' city style, full of bars, and wine bars, and lounge bars... and the old shops that used to exist have mostly vanished, of course there is international stores like Zara, Massimo Dutti, etc, etc. I haven't been there for a while but that's what everybody is telling me. One of these days I'll go check for myself.

TV says that property is being bought by foreigners, on top of the list, Chinese, Canadians, French, and Americans. And except for the French which are retiring here including a lot in my area, the others are doing it for investment purposes, specially tourism rental.

Note: however crossing the river on the commute boat is still cheap. Public transportation hasn't gone up that much.
.. I wonder if Antiguina is still going and that historical place close to Lisbon train station where they do the special sausage ( farinhera ? ).
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yeah, that one is still there. It's from the late 19th century and it was witness to the assassination of presidente Sidónio Pais in 1918 right by there, It's historic.

But some by Rossio and Figueira have become hamburgers or similar places or closed down. Suiça pastelaria in Rossio closed. A Spanish owned Investment Fund bought it and has an expensive hotel there now not suitable for pastelarias on the ground floor. Carmo Plaza and the entrance to the elevators have a bunch of outdoors wine bars, including one on the bridge that accesses the elevator. Some streets around there were closed to the traffic and the same type of wine bars popped up.

I generally go there when the jacaranda trees go in flower, they have not taken those down, people will kill them if they dare to do it. When I go I'll let you know the changes.
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Ow, and I found out today (thru the TV news) that the train drivers strike is because they want a raise 50€/month to cope with inflation.

And the nurses of the private hospitals also went on strike today.
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PFVA wrote:Ow, and I found out today (thru the TV news) that the train drivers strike is because they want a raise 50€/month to cope with inflation.

And the nurses of the private hospitals also went on strike today.
OW .. they want 50 EUR/month MORE!!! .. wow .. the price politicians spend every day for their coffee/breakfast ? ... how dare those "commoners" to ask for 50 EUR per MONTH !!! .. :roll:
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It has started, the unions took to the streets today, peacefully, no incidents.

And the employees of the train's privatised bars, the ones who haven't been paid in 3 months and the company owner seems to have disappeared from sight, blocked the departure of one train this morning by crossing the line back and forth.There was about 20 of them and it took police almost an hour to convince them to stop doing it. Actually the passengers who got out, the train employees and even the police were all quite sympathetic to their cause.
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Suella Braverman laughing her head off in the “village” earmarked for refugees being sent to Rwanda is a chilling and disturbing image.

Rwanda is NOT a safe country. There are hundreds of thousands of refugees FROM Rwanda stuck in the Democratic Republic of Congo due to continued ethnic violence. Journalists have been arrested and even killed. International observers are talking of war crimes, and US citizens are advised not to travel to the country at all.

She even joked about asking for the name of the interior designer.
It didn’t take long for the press to reveal that the “village” had been built as affordable housing for Rwandans. But the model Suella was photographed with looks more reminiscent of a concentration camp.

And the small print of the deal limits how many refugees Rwanda will take for the £140 million outlay, at the same time as allowing refugees FROM Rwanda to enter the UK.

THIS IS NOT A SOLUTION to the problem of the processing backlog.
A much better solution would be processing refugees and migrants so they can start working and contributing to society.
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It seems that Charles III is bypassing the opportunity to have some French croissants. I hear his official trip there has been cancelled due to security concerns.
Actually things seem a bit out of control with the demonstrations there.They almost set fire to Bordeaux City Hall entrance.
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merman wrote:
THIS IS NOT A SOLUTION to the problem of the processing backlog.
A much better solution would be processing refugees and migrants so they can start working and contributing to society.
... hope she only says her decision is final ... ( and maybe sometime later someone else can change it ) ...
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I'm guessing no-one on Bravermans media team is old enough to realise the implications, given this places intended purpose, of referring to it as "The Village"...

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This is a good example of Black Mirror type social engineering - friend lives around the corner and said it was scary...


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The teachers on and off on strike since December say that are tired of being ignored by the government and are taking their protests to Brussels.

I wonder what makes them think that they will not be ignored there too. Everybody seems to be protesting thru out the EU.
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F-ZeroOne wrote:I'm guessing no-one on Bravermans media team is old enough to realise the implications, given this places intended purpose, of referring to it as "The Village"...
Given it's one of my favourite TV shows of all time, the rhetoric was certainly not lost on me...

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