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Make up your OWN mind for once, why don't you. A lot of people realise that reviews are biased and/or heavily influenced, and cannot be trusted. Besides, a lot of really good games get bad reviews, and a lot of games got really good reviews and yet still did not sell well. So if you really believe that everybody uses reviews to decide what they buy, then yes, you are wrong.
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Snakey wrote:Make up your OWN mind for once, why don't you. A lot of people realise that reviews are biased and/or heavily influenced, and cannot be trusted. Besides, a lot of really good games get bad reviews, and a lot of games got really good reviews and yet still did not sell well. So if you really believe that everybody uses reviews to decide what they buy, then yes, you are wrong.
So do go to movies at random, How do you know its good. I bet you would go to Kitty has large balls and flies over bangcock. Reviews are a guide, without them we would screwed and buying a lot of crap :lol:
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Mr Meow wrote:So do go to movies at random, How do you know its good.
Don't they have Trailers where you come from?

How do I know it's good just because a reviewer said so?
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Snakey wrote:
Mr Meow wrote:So do go to movies at random, How do you know its good.
Don't they have Trailers where you come from?

How do I know it's good just because a reviewer said so?
By reading at least 5. Its called being informed... :D
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No, it's called being an idiot who is incapable of making up his own mind about something ;)

If the makers of said movie cannot produce a trailer that makes me want to see it, then they probably cannot produce a movie that I want to see, either.

Better than a review that was probably written by somebody who was paid to say it was good.

"Being informed" is knowing that things like this happen. Wake up.
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Snakey wrote:Don't they have Trailers where you come from?

How do I know it's good just because a reviewer said so?
Just pointing out that there are MANY better ways to predict the quality of a movie than trailers. And, if you've been following the works of good reviewers or critics, you should have a pretty good idea about how the movie / game works for you. Reviews can indeed work as a good guide. I'd say it's way more stupid to go and see a movie based on the trailer than going to see it by taking notice of a critic who you know by work and have agreed on previously. Case in point: Crash, imo terrible trailer, imo good movie.

All this is of course not a problem if a person doesn't go to movies that much and is happy to see the next LOTR or whatever - no digging required - no Mysterious Skin or Roger Dodger in the DVD shelves.
Better than a review that was probably written by somebody who was paid to say it was good.

"Being informed" is knowing that things like this happen. Wake up.
I've had my share of Mr. Meow, but you do know that you can "be informed" on critics or reviewers as well.
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Snakey wrote:No, it's called being an idiot who is incapable of making up his own mind about something ;)
I would rather make up my mind based on trailers and reviews than on trailers only.
Would it also be wrong - by your thinking - to let yourself be influenced by the recomendations of friends and yak-yak'ers ?

In my mind the more opinions I get from different sources the better my chances are of guessing if I will like a certain game or movie.
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/morten wrote:I would rather make up my mind based on trailers and reviews than on trailers only.
Would it also be wrong - by your thinking - to let yourself be influenced by the recomendations of friends and yak-yak'ers ?
Ah, you see, being influenced is a different thing entirely. Of course if several people whos opinion I trust like something it will definately influence me.

But that isn't what Meow is saying. This is a guy who, by his own admission, goes around telling everybody he can that something is shit, without having even seen it. He believes that if it gets bad reviews it is shit. There's no influence involved. If someone says its shit, it is shit.

A lot of reviews, and a lot of people on here, liked the Hitchhikers movie. So I saw it. It was shit.

Same goes for Peter Jacksons King Kong.

So yeah, influence is ok. But Meow seems to be of the opinion that everybody likes the same thing.
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Snakey wrote:
/morten wrote:I would rather make up my mind based on trailers and reviews than on trailers only.
Would it also be wrong - by your thinking - to let yourself be influenced by the recomendations of friends and yak-yak'ers ?
Ah, you see, being influenced is a different thing entirely. Of course if several people whos opinion I trust like something it will definately influence me.

But that isn't what Meow is saying. This is a guy who, by his own admission, goes around telling everybody he can that something is shit, without having even seen it. He believes that if it gets bad reviews it is shit. There's no influence involved. If someone says its shit, it is shit.

A lot of reviews, and a lot of people on here, liked the Hitchhikers movie. So I saw it. It was shit.

Same goes for Peter Jacksons King Kong.

So yeah, influence is ok. But Meow seems to be of the opinion that everybody likes the same thing.
we seem to agree then.
Whether or not Mr. Meow believes that everybody likes the same thing I couldn't say - probably not though.
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Um... what's so bad about seeing/playing something that's shit, anyway?

Without knowing what is "bad", we're incapable of recognising whether something is indeed "good".

Unless we let others make those critical distinctions for us.
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moobaa wrote:Um... what's so bad about seeing/playing something that's shit, anyway?

Without knowing what is "bad", we're incapable of recognising whether something is indeed "good".

Unless we let others make those critical distinctions for us.
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Only way to know for sure is to try. When you're talking about games, especially ones on XBLA, there's no excuse not to.
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Fuck knows, enough people loved Manic Miner. Goat help 'em. ;).
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Ah, now that was cock.
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true.dat. ;)
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Speaking as someone who reviews games-

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