Politics Thread!

[zip accident]

The problem is noone can prove any of that video isn't fake.

Trump is telling the truth, but there is a "liberal media conspiracy" to hide all footage of what's going wrong in Portland, and to AI generate "peaceful protest" videos, and to algorithmically remove the other footage that proves his point from all social media platforms, in a coordinated conspiracy to hide the truth.

That's what I'm saying the Trump believers will believe.

I may not, you may not, but if all the Democrats are disenfranchised, it will only be Trump believers who can vote, and guess which way they vote.

I am forseeing/fearing a split in the Republican party into democratic Republicans and Trumpists, and the Trumpists winning, and that being the future of the USA (as was) for decades to come.

[Little stoned kiwi]

The US is a fascist dictatorship. Not in danger of becoming one, it already is.

[zip accident]

The US is a fascist dictatorship. Not in danger of becoming one, it already is.

It may be now, I am not sure, but it very well could be.

OTOH, if someone is saying it has been since 1945 or some such, I disagree.

[Little stoned kiwi]

There has always been an underlying theme of eugenics and inequality but with progress towards democracy and human rights. Those institutions are being dismantled and replaced with authoritarianism overseen by an autocrat.

Trump 2028. Even if he doesn't live that long.

[KlaxonCow]

The US is a fascist dictatorship. Not in danger of becoming one, it already is.

I mean, they effectively self-identify as fascist.

Because they're talking about how "Antifa" seeks to destroy their administration.

But "Antifa" is just an abbreviation of "Anti-fascist" and, no, it's not a real organisation - or, at least it wasn't, but it might increasingly have to become one, in necessary resistance to being governed by fascists - but was more like "Anonymous", a label that those who are anti-fascist can rally around in joint cause.

They're themselves naming their greatest enemy as being the anti-fascist protesters. Who's anti-anti-fascist? Fascists are.

[F-ZeroOne]

Leaked footage of "construction" of the new White House ballroom has emerged:

[zip accident]

The US is a fascist dictatorship. Not in danger of becoming one, it already is.

I mean, they effectively self-identify as fascist.

...

They're themselves naming their greatest enemy as being the anti-fascist protesters. Who's anti-anti-fascist? Fascists are.

What's puzzling me is why are so very few running? So far as I've read, Ellen de Generis and her girlfriend are all of it.

If it's as bad as we fear, all the rich black musicians should be getting out now. They're not.

I mean, in any group of people 49.999% are below the average intelligence for that group, but why aren't the other 49.999% running?

That makes me think maybe it's not as bad as I fear, because I'm really not keeping up to date with the state of the USA and they really, really ought to be, so presumably they know something I don't?

[Little stoned kiwi]

What's puzzling me is why are so very few running? So far as I've read, Ellen de Generis and her girlfriend are all of it.

"It won't happen to me. I'm not part of the outgroup that's currently being targeted. This is making things better."

[tufty]

If it's as bad as we fear, all the rich black musicians should be getting out now. They're not.

Because they are rich. When you've got a private jet, getting out at very short notice isn't a problem.

It's not a communist revolution. They're not stringing bankers up on street corners. It's not the rich who are being targetted, for all the anti "establishment" rhetoric and the few of Trump's direct political enemies who are getting ridiculously incompetent lawsuits aimed at them. For the moment, the rich are effectively immune.

[zip accident]

If it's as bad as we fear, all the rich black musicians should be getting out now. They're not.

Because they are rich. When you've got a private jet, getting out at very short notice isn't a problem.

I wouldn't bet (not that I do bet) on a Lear Jet up against an F16.

Maybe all the rich USAians are in thrall to AI? It sort of fits the facts, but I don't on the whole think it's likely.

[Deckard]

Total farce here in Cornwall with Reform -

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornw ... source=nba

No other party would get into bed with them after they won a ton of seats too.....

[tufty]

I wouldn't bet (not that I do bet) on a Lear Jet up against an F16.

Nor would I. But I wouldn't bet on the further-down-the-line and more overtly fascist US shooting down (let's say) George Clooney rather than just letting him go. They would have absolutely nothing to gain by doing it and a fair amount to lose.

The rich have little to fear apart from having their assets sequestered. But most of the rich, and all of the very rich have very little capital actually tied up in the the country where they live. It's all hidden away from the taxman under 50 layers of anonymous companies in other countries, and thus also out of the grasp of a hostile government. Sure, they'll lose the New York townhouse, the "little place" at Martha's Vineyard and so on, but the cash money isn't in suitcases under the bed. And they won't have trouble finding somewhere to sleep, there's also the ski lodge in Courchevel, the maisonette just off Hyde Park, the place in Madrid, the place on Lake Como ...

[F-ZeroOne]

https://kotaku.com/department-homeland- ... 2000639308

https://kotaku.com/donald-trump-halo-ga ... 2000639237

"No, sir."

[Deckard]

So apparently the ex-reform lot (5 councillors) in Cornwall left (and formed an independent party) as they were told to just say "no" to lots of stuff en masse at a local level because of national level stuff like solar panels and net zero...

"“We run services, we’re implementers in council. We’re not policy setters and Reform UK is off looking for issues to do with migration, net zero, DEI and all the rest of it, which doesn’t really apply at local level.” Said one of the leavers " Cllr O’Connor"

Bodes well.

[PFVA]

It's always nice to read good news in the morning:

US Senate passes bill with Republican support to rescind Trump’s tariffs on Brazil

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ffs-brazil