Being killed by bullets not yet at the rim?

[axel000]

There are dickheads in all works of life, although they are hard to ignore (the penis extended from the forehead is hard not to look at), its the only sane strategy.




SG is the best $5 I've ever spent. Period. Nuff said.

[choddo]

I find that post both hurtful and unhelpful

[Harlequin]

I'm fed up of any slight criticism of SG being interpreted as
Minter is a complete cunt and any questions on this forum
as too when neonPC being ready as barefaced cuntery.
Llamasoft? Sorry just not interested any more.

But you aren't interested in Llamasoft anyway, are you? You're just here because you're some mate of Harley's.
Do you actually have SG? Have you even played it? If not what are you doing in a thread discussing specific aspects of SG gameplay?
I guess you just felt the need to drop in to make a spectacularly badly timed nasty comment. So, more attention-seeking then.
Carry on.

I only joined this forum because I am some mate of yours. PG is, however, like his son, a far more avid player of Llamatron than I am.

One does not require any experience of SG, or any knowledge of it, to be upset by the nasty and often childish manner in which criticism of almost any aspect of it is responded to by its creators. There is no call for rudeness toward customers, tirades against reviewers or long, arrogant, condescending rants on people's LiveJournals in response to throwaway mentions made to their friends. As PG wrote, comments made about SG are not generally dismissive of its makers. The responses made by those makers, though, are projecting such a bad image that many people (including some long-term fans who have owned most of Llamasoft's back catalogue) are apparently deciding not to buy the game due to distaste and loss of respect. Even if it were true that all those people who don't 'get' SG are stupid, lazy, illiterate, hateful, blind, deaf or some combination thereof, I would not think it to be in your best interests to alienate those who remain. While I can understand the extreme defensiveness (being myself a very insecure person given to extremes) I again suggest that you refrain from publicly responding to anything you consider 'negative' unless you can do so calmly, politely and without insulting the mental capacities of those you disagree with. It is just possible, although perhaps only on very rare occasions, that you can be wrong even when everyone you know is right agrees with you. It might conceivably be true that SG is not perfect. There might even be a faint possibility that not all of your previous games have been worse.

Following this saga has not been good for my own mental health. I remain, though, because this is my virtual home. You, Giles and many others here are an extended family to me, so please understand that I write this not to be nasty or to seek attention but because I care deeply about you. Please take a holiday at the soonest opportunity.

[Yak]

I'm fed up of any slight criticism of SG being interpreted as
Minter is a complete cunt and any questions on this forum
as too when neonPC being ready as barefaced cuntery.
Llamasoft? Sorry just not interested any more.

But you aren't interested in Llamasoft anyway, are you? You're just here because you're some mate of Harley's.
Do you actually have SG? Have you even played it? If not what are you doing in a thread discussing specific aspects of SG gameplay?
I guess you just felt the need to drop in to make a spectacularly badly timed nasty comment. So, more attention-seeking then.
Carry on.

I only joined this forum because I am some mate of yours. PG is, however, like his son, a far more avid player of Llamatron than I am.

One does not require any experience of SG, or any knowledge of it, to be upset by the nasty and often childish manner in which criticism of almost any aspect of it is responded to by its creators. There is no call for rudeness toward customers, tirades against reviewers or long, arrogant, condescending rants on people's LiveJournals in response to throwaway mentions made to their friends. As PG wrote, comments made about SG are not generally dismissive of its makers. The responses made by those makers, though, are projecting such a bad image that many people (including some long-term fans who have owned most of Llamasoft's back catalogue) are apparently deciding not to buy the game due to distaste and loss of respect. Even if it were true that all those people who don't 'get' SG are stupid, lazy, illiterate, hateful, blind, deaf or some combination thereof, I would not think it to be in your best interests to alienate those who remain. While I can understand the extreme defensiveness (being myself a very insecure person given to extremes) I again suggest that you refrain from publicly responding to anything you consider 'negative' unless you can do so calmly, politely and without insulting the mental capacities of those you disagree with. It is just possible, although perhaps only on very rare occasions, that you can be wrong even when everyone you know is right agrees with you. It might conceivably be true that SG is not perfect. There might even be a faint possibility that not all of your previous games have been worse.

Following this saga has not been good for my own mental health. I remain, though, because this is my virtual home. You, Giles and many others here are an extended family to me, so please understand that I write this not to be nasty or to seek attention but because I care deeply about you. Please take a holiday at the soonest opportunity.

OK, tell me how just when this discussion reached the point of us admitting "yeah, ok, things got a bit heavy there, let's back off and chill a bit" - a reasonable and healthy conclusion, I thought - PG *then* decides it's a wonderful time to wade in with such comments and *you* now see fit to back him up.

Singularly inappropriate timing I thought at the time and I still think so now. I could understand such comments coming before I tried to explain a bit about why we were so stressed and snippy, but after? That's just rude and unkind and betrays a massive lack of empathy.

And I wouldn't say that "many people are deciding not to buy the game through distaste or loss of respect". In fact I wonder where the hell you pulled that statistic out of if not your asshole. Oh, and by the way, thank you so very much for dragging me back into this when you know and I know that the best thing for everyone concerned is for us to disengage from it completely. Beautiful timing there mate. With friends like these who the hell needs enemies.

[axel000]

I find that post both hurtful and unhelpful

I know, I aim to please

[Bleating_and_Babbling]

Sorry to bleat in........

I bought SG the minute it appeared.
My girlfriend sat beside me and at first was confused....... she was expecting actual fluffy sheepies.......

A few days later she was shouting at the screen whenever a flower appeared, or a bullet got close.

My little boy (who is 7) has been coo'ing over it for days, spinning happily around the screens ( and making my scored look bad, or is that just me) and hitting the restart button at Daley Thompson speeds.

So....... for all my family, this ha been a great game. I love to just play it for 20 minutes here and there, its both engaging and strangely relaxing at the same time. Im not that good at it, but im getting better.

Faults, flaws.... who cares, its a game for gods sake, it cost £3.50. I cant see any faults that would make me complain.

I play in a band, and the worst feeling is when anyone criticises what you played, especially when you know you did good.... there is always some idiot who just wants to make themselves look bigger, or better than you. In the past ive given them my guitar and told them to try themselves.... which is always fun.


So.... thanks Jeff, another classic, and one which even my non game playing girlfriend has got into.

[Harlequin]

Beautiful timing there mate. With friends like these who the hell needs enemies.

I apologise for having brought this up publicly. I had considered for quite a few days writing something along the lines of the above. It would probably have been better to send it to you privately but I was afraid to do so until I saw PG being attacked for posting much the same as I had been feeling. I am afraid that the emotions I have been experiencing over these events combined with memories of PG being unfairly attacked in the past (seemingly for nothing more than his association with myself) not only gave me the courage to finally put the words to keyboard but also, regrettably, to frame them within a public response to your reply to PG.

I held things in out of fear then allowed them to splatter out in public, greatly diminishing what benefits may have arisen from private discussion. This was a wrong action and I am sorry that I took it.

[SpookyElectric1]

Who needs TV. This is great.

[franki]

so a while ago, my wife bought a new VW Golf. it's lovely, it's a joy to drive, it's got an iPod dock, air con, a lovely little computer that tells us all kinds of stuff about where we've been. it even has a drinks holder that doubles as a VW branded bottle opener. really, they've thought of everything.

it's also got an air conditioned glove compartment.

now we keep a lot of stuff in the glove compartment so when i'd just spent about 60 quid on a pair of Animal shades, i didn't want to put them in there with everything else for fear of scratching but then i noticed this little shelf in the glove compartment, above everything else, and that's where i put them as we reversed out of a multi storey car park in birmingham. as we did so there was a horrible crunching, chewing noise from the glove compartment. i opened it up to find that the shades were gone and from the shelf was coming the munching "sunglasses in the machinery" sound. it continued for a minute, then there was a clunk, then more grinding, then another clunk, then nothing aside from a "faint flutter" from the air con.

it turned out that this shelf was in fact where the cold air came from and there was no grille over it to prevent objects dropping in. we took the car to the garage to see what could be done, expecting them to apologise for this oversight and at the very least, check that the air con wasn't damaged and hand me back what i assumed would be some fragments of glass and twisted metal. in fact, it turned out it WASN'T an oversight or manufactuing error, there wasn't meant to be a grille there. apparently this was all my fault and we had to pay them 80 quid to delve into the dashboard and fix the air con unit. this was on a car that we'd only just bought and which cost over £12k.

Space Giraffe has never eaten my sunglasses and will never cost me eighty quid to fix. in fact it's being fixed for free. for this reason alone (and many more besides) this 2 man 1 year project is in my humble opinion much better than a brand new VW Golf.

so, incidentally, are animal sunglasses which emerged from their experience without so much as a scratch.