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Ok separate thread, anyone got/has the VCS version ?

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Sooo ... nobody here has got a VCS ? ...
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I heard about 10k sales so I'd be surprised if anyone here had one.....
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I see a guy on the LL discord has one and is posting about a few "issues"
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Deckard wrote:I see a guy on the LL discord has one and is posting about a few "issues"
I am not there I'd be curious to see the "issues" he talks about, I KNOW THERE ARE issues FOR SURE !
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“ Regarding T2K on the VCS, I've noticed a couple of issues. It looks like 4K is blurry (Full HD is perfect). Also, I think there are some controller issues. Regarding the classic controller, the rotary is mapped backwards- clockwise moves the claw counterclockwise and vice-versa (you can see this easily on the first level). Interestingly, the bonus flying between webs is accurate. On the modern controller, the left and right are backwards during this bonus flying. If this is working as intended, is there any chance for an update to map the controllers? Personally, I would love to use the rotary of the classic controller, but I am having trouble getting used to its reverse configuration.”

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Deckard wrote:“ Regarding T2K on the VCS, I've noticed a couple of issues. It looks like 4K is blurry (Full HD is perfect). Also, I think there are some controller issues. Regarding the classic controller, the rotary is mapped backwards- clockwise moves the claw counterclockwise and vice-versa (you can see this easily on the first level). Interestingly, the bonus flying between webs is accurate. On the modern controller, the left and right are backwards during this bonus flying. If this is working as intended, is there any chance for an update to map the controllers? Personally, I would love to use the rotary of the classic controller, but I am having trouble getting used to its reverse configuration.”

I hope he doesn’t mind - I’ll ask him to come here ;)
Blurry ? .. erm .. what is attached to ? .. one thing that may be is that "the vector/pixel density" is lightly affected by resolution.

I'll have to re-check 4K, last time I "trimmed" all stuff it looked ok ..

The "rotary" depends also if you are inside or outside the web ..

Left/right backwards during bonus flying ?

I was intended to do some "controller mini configuration thing" but I've run out of time, they absolutely wanted "something ready for 22th" .. we can always do maybe a "patch" later mind you.
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Hopefully he will be along soon as (re) joining our fluffy ranks ! And he has a VCS !!
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gilesgoat wrote:
Blurry ? .. erm .. what is attached to ? .. one thing that may be is that "the vector/pixel density" is lightly affected by resolution.

I'll have to re-check 4K, last time I "trimmed" all stuff it looked ok ..

The "rotary" depends also if you are inside or outside the web ..

Left/right backwards during bonus flying ?

I was intended to do some "controller mini configuration thing" but I've run out of time, they absolutely wanted "something ready for 22th" .. we can always do maybe a "patch" later mind you.
Giles, it is an honor to talk to you about T4K for VCS. Regarding the blurriness, I have my VCS connected to a 65" LG OLED panel, 2018 version (C8). If you'd like, I can take pics showing the difference in visuals between 4K and 2K.

Regarding the Classic Controller's rotary controls, level 1 is a simple circle, and so you can see that twisting clockwise moves the claw counterclockwise.

Regarding bonus flying, it seems fine with the Classic Controller, but left and right feel inverted on the Modern Controller.

I am a huge fan, so it would be my pleasure to help in any way.

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gilesgoat wrote:
Blurry ? .. erm .. what is attached to ? .. one thing that may be is that "the vector/pixel density" is lightly affected by resolution.

I'll have to re-check 4K, last time I "trimmed" all stuff it looked ok ..

The "rotary" depends also if you are inside or outside the web ..

Left/right backwards during bonus flying ?

I was intended to do some "controller mini configuration thing" but I've run out of time, they absolutely wanted "something ready for 22th" .. we can always do maybe a "patch" later mind you.
Giles, it is an honor to talk to you about T4K for VCS. Regarding the blurriness, I have my VCS connected to a 65" LG OLED panel, 2018 version (C8). If you'd like, I can take pics showing the difference in visuals between 4K and 2K.

Regarding the Classic Controller's rotary controls, level 1 is a simple circle, and so you can see that twisting clockwise moves the claw counterclockwise.

Regarding bonus flying, it seems fine with the Classic Controller, but left and right feel inverted on the Modern Controller.

I am a huge fan, so it would be my pleasure to help in any way.

Eric
DAMN .. we have a 50" LG OLED .. you beat us for 15 inches !

When you speak about "Bonus" you mean the "warp time" between levels and/or "the bonus round" when you collect 4 "triangles" ?

Just speaking between "huge fans" .. when I first saw it ( and I did not have it yet ) I tought "WOW a rotary controller we can make it awesome" ..

.. until I had it .. that control gave/gives me an ENORMOUS amount of GRIEF to TRY to make it "behave", I think it must be ( the "rotary" part ) probably "the cheapest thing of the whole VCS", if it isn't then they'll highly "overpaid" it for what it is.

Anyway I'll try to work a bit more on all that, because "I am still waiting some stuff to come" ( from Atari ) to really "complete" the VCS version, as you noted you don't have online score tables - yet - and not even the proper username in the actual ones ..

So yes at some point I'll release a patch/something with possibly some fixes and some improvements.

I was planning to do a "rotary config screen" but I really had no time to finish it, they wanted "something ready" at all costs for 22th so I did.

Also I think I tried 4K here on my 4K Philips BDM4037U monitor but I am not sure I ever tried 2K ( what is 2K ? 1920x1080 ? ) 2048 x something ??

If you could put some pics here could be great.

Anyway no "I am not totally finished with VCS" so "there will be a future patch".
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EricR442 wrote:
gilesgoat wrote:
Blurry ? .. erm .. what is attached to ? .. one thing that may be is that "the vector/pixel density" is lightly affected by resolution.

I'll have to re-check 4K, last time I "trimmed" all stuff it looked ok ..

The "rotary" depends also if you are inside or outside the web ..

Left/right backwards during bonus flying ?

I was intended to do some "controller mini configuration thing" but I've run out of time, they absolutely wanted "something ready for 22th" .. we can always do maybe a "patch" later mind you.
Giles, it is an honor to talk to you about T4K for VCS. Regarding the blurriness, I have my VCS connected to a 65" LG OLED panel, 2018 version (C8). If you'd like, I can take pics showing the difference in visuals between 4K and 2K.

Regarding the Classic Controller's rotary controls, level 1 is a simple circle, and so you can see that twisting clockwise moves the claw counterclockwise.

Regarding bonus flying, it seems fine with the Classic Controller, but left and right feel inverted on the Modern Controller.

I am a huge fan, so it would be my pleasure to help in any way.

Eric
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gilesgoat wrote: DAMN .. we have a 50" LG OLED .. you beat us for 15 inches !

When you speak about "Bonus" you mean the "warp time" between levels and/or "the bonus round" when you collect 4 "triangles" ?

Just speaking between "huge fans" .. when I first saw it ( and I did not have it yet ) I tought "WOW a rotary controller we can make it awesome" ..

.. until I had it .. that control gave/gives me an ENORMOUS amount of GRIEF to TRY to make it "behave", I think it must be ( the "rotary" part ) probably "the cheapest thing of the whole VCS", if it isn't then they'll highly "overpaid" it for what it is.

Anyway I'll try to work a bit more on all that, because "I am still waiting some stuff to come" ( from Atari ) to really "complete" the VCS version, as you noted you don't have online score tables - yet - and not even the proper username in the actual ones ..

So yes at some point I'll release a patch/something with possibly some fixes and some improvements.

I was planning to do a "rotary config screen" but I really had no time to finish it, they wanted "something ready" at all costs for 22th so I did.

Also I think I tried 4K here on my 4K Philips BDM4037U monitor but I am not sure I ever tried 2K ( what is 2K ? 1920x1080 ? ) 2048 x something ??

If you could put some pics here could be great.

Anyway no "I am not totally finished with VCS" so "there will be a future patch".
15 inches... It's not the size that matters... :P

By bonus, I mean warp time between levels (I haven't gotten to the triangle part). I suspect it's just me- I am used to flight sim controls with inverted y axis and I'm having a tough time getting used to it. They sure don't make me like I used to be :(

I was also really excited about the rotary, but I wish I could control the sensitivity better (I'd love it to be more sensitive). I am having a tough time in Breakout Recharged also. Although I imagine this is an unpopular opinion, I was disappointed that the Classic Controller was digital rather than analog. I like the feel of joysticks/flight sticks (I bought a WICO joystick for Star Raiders back in the day), but I like the subtlety of analog.

I am just happy by the fact that I have T4K on an Atari console- I have no problem waiting for patches.

I took pics of both 4K and 2K (1920x1080), but unfortunately, I don't know how to link/attach them here.

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In time honoured tradition - Welcome to the fluffiest place on the web !

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Thank you for facilitating, and for the welcome! It's my pleasure to be here and to help in any way I can.

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EricR442 wrote:I took pics of both 4K and 2K (1920x1080), but unfortunately, I don't know how to link/attach them here.
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Thanks Harlequin, I did as you said.

Giles, these first two pics are at 4K resolution: https://ibb.co/v425mJW and https://ibb.co/gztLmS5

These second two pics are at 2K (1920 x 1080): https://ibb.co/J3Fkd0L and https://ibb.co/KGxHntd

I hope the links work.

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EricR442 wrote:Thanks Harlequin, I did as you said.

Giles, these first two pics are at 4K resolution: https://ibb.co/v425mJW and https://ibb.co/gztLmS5

These second two pics are at 2K (1920 x 1080): https://ibb.co/J3Fkd0L and https://ibb.co/KGxHntd

I hope the links work.

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Hum .. "last time I checked they were not like that" .. must be said after that "last time" I kept working on a smaller monitor ..

I'll have to re-check that story ..

Anyway I hope soon "to get a certain API from Atari" I'd love to fix all the rest too.
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