Yak wrote:Er, I'm a gamer who's used LS for many things, and I just think it's a shame that they've been fucked with for no good reason at all. I'm allowed to be disappointed by that aren't I?
Absolutely, but there's a huge difference between thinking it's a bit shit
and thinking Sony are evil incarnate.
Yak wrote:Er, I'm a gamer who's used LS for many things, and I just think it's a shame that they've been fucked with for no good reason at all. I'm allowed to be disappointed by that aren't I?
It wasn't directed at you, I know you've spunked your fair share of readies at LS. Outside of this forum mostly, I mean the amount of outraged supposed Lik-Sang customers I've read posts by today on various fora would suggest the guys behind LS are multi-millionaires.
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I've a perfectly good grip and I know damn well that it is just an import shop, but it is the first one I used and that means something to me - my gaming life is important to me and they hold a milestone position in it - I don't like to see them drummed out of business for no good reason and when I say 'big fat mourning thread' I'm hardly sat here sobbing my eyes out, I'm using a little hyperbole.
No one has died, but it is the end of an era in importing if that brand goes, though importing may go from strength to strength, so I'll voice regret and mark its passing.
Still, there's always VG+ (unless $ony are reading this...)
XBox Gamertag: GovernmentYard
Everything else: governmentyard
Yak wrote:Er, I'm a gamer who's used LS for many things, and I just think it's a shame that they've been fucked with for no good reason at all. I'm allowed to be disappointed by that aren't I?
Absolutely, but there's a huge difference between thinking it's a bit shit
and thinking Sony are evil incarnate.
But in this consumerist world the only way to make your views known to an organization is to boycott their products, only when it is in the interest of making profit will their actions change. Don't like the actions Sony are taking then stop buying their products and encourage others not to, isn't that what using your power as a consumer is.
Yak wrote:Er, I'm a gamer who's used LS for many things, and I just think it's a shame that they've been fucked with for no good reason at all. I'm allowed to be disappointed by that aren't I?
Absolutely, but there's a huge difference between thinking it's a bit shit
and thinking Sony are evil incarnate.
But in this consumerist world the only way to make your views known to an organization is to boycott their products, only when it is in the interest of making profit will their actions change. Don't like the actions Sony are taking then stop buying their products and encourage others not to, isn't that what using your power as a consumer is.
And good for those who choose to do that. It still doesn't make Sony
even that bad for a technology company, never mind the sorts of
industries I previously mentioned.
Sony won their case fairly in a UK court, it's bad news for Lik-Sang but
it's not a particularly good example of wickedness on Sony's part. Nor
is it unusual for such a case to come to court since the ECJ judgement
regarding Silhouette.
Won their case fairly? There's nowt fair about the way the manufacturers exploit the international market to make their products as cheaply as possible then put up walls when it comes to selling. Legal, yes. Fair - far from it. What's good for the goose and all that.
As for Sony - humankind has the right to bad guys, doesn't it? Rational or not... does it really matter?
XBox Gamertag: GovernmentYard
Everything else: governmentyard
It's just the latest episode in the PR abortion that has been Sony for a long long time now. I've bought from Lik-Sang, and Play Asia, both were/are excellent services. Indeed importing (for me) was one of the nice little pleasures of gaming where you could get a bit more choice, be an early adopter, and sometimes save some dosh. Buying a Japanese game or console still feels kinda exotic and exciting. We all know the suits hate it.
Sony sued Lik-Sang probably because they want absolute control of the supply to the territories of interest at launch time. Any dilution will make them nervous. I'm not sure why they needed to sue Lik-Sang to achieve this but there you go. It *appears* heavy handed and indeed anti-gamer, but I'm prepared to accept that Lik-Sang are milking it, I just don't know. But given the way Sony are bullshitting on this one, it's hard, really hard, to warm to them. They're a global corporation, they pull shit like this, it's what they do. There's executives to pay, thousands of salaries going out and shareholders looking at the stock price. If outfits like Lik-Sang are able to grab inventory that's supposed to go to a specific region then presumably sales will get skewed and someone shits the bed.
Will it make any difference to PS3 sales? No. Is it a good story to fuel the brand fights? Yes. The whole thing is a bit depressing. Cue hilarious Penny Arcade strip.
I gave up sony just after what they did to the dreamcast and I've never felt better
Yes, yes.. I know nintendo do the bad too, i've seen the disappearance of snes/n64 roms on various sites since the wii was announced as backward compatible, and microsoft now checks MY version of windows incase I've got a dodgy version, the cnuts. But there you go, That's corporate life.
I hope everyone who's posted on here against the 's' remembers this, as has been said earlier. Power to the people and all that, not that sony give a flying fuck about europe.
The only time a corporation has power over you is when you accept it's rules about what you can do with your money.
You don't have to buy anything from anyone. Hell, if it comes to that Markie's got me re-interested in chess - so if anyone needs a game of something fun, drop me a PM
Nintendo are practically legendary for this kind of shite, but I don't think even they would be cocky enough to take on such a public figure in the import business at this particularly sensitive fanboy-spunkfest time in the gaming calender.
I'll freely admit to having never imported from lik-sang in my life, but I have occasionally browsed its wares and was on there only the other day eyeing up the Wii component and (potentially fictional) third party VGA cables just incase Nintendo decide to make european buyers wrestle pigs for the right to own one. Needless to say, it's extremely irritating to have my carefully filed bookmarks suddenly rendered useless because their good customer service and competitive pricing made Sony's european supply chain look horribly inept.
Yes, I'm sure I can find my cables elsewhere (hopefully in a local shop), but that's hardly the point.
Sony aren't 'GWAHAHAHAHAAA!' evil, they're just very bumheadish.
goatboy wrote:That Lik Sang is gone is reason enough to have a big fat mourning thread.
Get a grip, man, it's an import shop. No one died. Lik-Sang ain't the Diana of gaming. Take your business to Play Asia, I'm sure they'll be glad to take all of Lik-Sang's customers, and in a month you'll have forgotten LS even existed.
Who's to say that they'll be around for any length of time?
Sony's shown that mis-applying copyright laws works really well in preventing distribution of their products in countries they've not released them in yet.
They'll probably do it again, it wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo started it as well.
The only thing that'll prevent them is people pissing and moaning all over the internet about it and characterising Sony as king cunt of the cuntiverse even if in reality it's a few people within that organisation making a few stupid decisions.
It was a key factor in their decision to drop their super dumb CD DRM.
I'm also a little dissapointed by this news - LS been the only import company I ever used and the service been excellent. I do however wish the fanboys would calm down a little as I find them and their 'sony is teh new evil' posts rather tedious. I believe Geeza summed it up with a superb, intelligent post. What's happened is rather shit yes - will it stop me buying a PS3 when there are some killer games I can't play on me 360 - no.
