.The Sony PS3 thread (apparently *still* obnoxious!)
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I'm also looking forward to the launch of PS3... I own a 360 and tho I bloody love the thing I try not to get all fanboi over any particular machine. Like OBSAK I have a collection of consoles which thanks to Ebay and the next gen arriving means it's been a good year to pick up a good deal.
My personal feelings are that Sony have a mountain to climb with the new PS3. Although the 'man in the street' will just buy into the whole 'Wow the new Playstation is here!!!!' vibe I think to the slightly more geeky amongst the populace.. ie the softies at large, It's been a bad year for Sony. The DRM fiasco, the poorly handled E3 presentation and the pricing points are making the lure quite a bit weaker this time around... A strong launch package would have been a massive salvo to Microsoft but there seems to be a panic to the launch IMHO. I would of waited till the spring and made sure that there was a hell of a lot more consoles available for the inevitable clamour for the unit. (I know that it's spring for us in europe ! I'm referring to the Japanese and USA launches) Some of the games (read cutscenes) looked very impressive 6 months ago. The problem with those, is that it gave MS the ammunition to mock it and show 'actual footage' from the 360. It's only now that games are starting to look finished in any way and the opportunity to wow the socks off people has been slightly diluted.
The massive price of the unit is also a significant barrier. The 360 was a stretch for me... it's the most I've ever spent on a console and although I am loving it, I waited until a few games came out that I thought I would enjoy and then finally got it.
£500 (ish) quid for the console? It would still be sitting on the shelf in the shop. It's not because I cant afford it. It just crosses WAY over what I'm prepared to pay.
And that should be a serious wake up call to Sony. I have a bad feeling that an awful lot of people are going to wait for a price drop that I doubt Sony can afford.... Billions have been spent creating this wonderful piece of hardware, and I truly believe that the Cell processor is an amazing step forward for computing in general. But I have a nagging feeling that if enough people are going to play the waiting game and see if the prices drop for xmas 07 then there is a very real prospect of Sony folding.
Priced at £300 quid and I would expect a sizable group of 360 owners would get this system as another cutting edge console for the inevitable PS3 exclusives that will be rolling out. Hell I know I would raise the dough for that... but the price of the console now means that it hardly registers on my radar. I will look again in 18 months or so as a possible window of purchase but by then the 360 will be getting some amazing games itself as the studios learn how to squeeze everything out of that machine. It's a tragedy that Sony seem to assumed that previous success means they can do whatever they like and get away it. They only have to look as far as Nintendo to see how easy it is to fall flat on your arse.
So I cling to the faint hope that Sony will realise that a lower price (bigger loss) at launch time will pay off in the medium to long term. Because I want one of these consoles. But I can live without it!
But a few of the games really look good. The new F1 game looks utterly amazing..... there was a clip on YouTube that left me open mouthed at the speed and damage modelling as a renault left the track and broke a suspension arm. That game alone made me get twitchy fingers for my wallet! Gundam looks bloody stunning! Same also for Unknown Realms.
But the one that is really making me go all gooey is Motor Storm. Oh fuck me that does look totally fucking awesome.!
My personal feelings are that Sony have a mountain to climb with the new PS3. Although the 'man in the street' will just buy into the whole 'Wow the new Playstation is here!!!!' vibe I think to the slightly more geeky amongst the populace.. ie the softies at large, It's been a bad year for Sony. The DRM fiasco, the poorly handled E3 presentation and the pricing points are making the lure quite a bit weaker this time around... A strong launch package would have been a massive salvo to Microsoft but there seems to be a panic to the launch IMHO. I would of waited till the spring and made sure that there was a hell of a lot more consoles available for the inevitable clamour for the unit. (I know that it's spring for us in europe ! I'm referring to the Japanese and USA launches) Some of the games (read cutscenes) looked very impressive 6 months ago. The problem with those, is that it gave MS the ammunition to mock it and show 'actual footage' from the 360. It's only now that games are starting to look finished in any way and the opportunity to wow the socks off people has been slightly diluted.
The massive price of the unit is also a significant barrier. The 360 was a stretch for me... it's the most I've ever spent on a console and although I am loving it, I waited until a few games came out that I thought I would enjoy and then finally got it.
£500 (ish) quid for the console? It would still be sitting on the shelf in the shop. It's not because I cant afford it. It just crosses WAY over what I'm prepared to pay.
And that should be a serious wake up call to Sony. I have a bad feeling that an awful lot of people are going to wait for a price drop that I doubt Sony can afford.... Billions have been spent creating this wonderful piece of hardware, and I truly believe that the Cell processor is an amazing step forward for computing in general. But I have a nagging feeling that if enough people are going to play the waiting game and see if the prices drop for xmas 07 then there is a very real prospect of Sony folding.
Priced at £300 quid and I would expect a sizable group of 360 owners would get this system as another cutting edge console for the inevitable PS3 exclusives that will be rolling out. Hell I know I would raise the dough for that... but the price of the console now means that it hardly registers on my radar. I will look again in 18 months or so as a possible window of purchase but by then the 360 will be getting some amazing games itself as the studios learn how to squeeze everything out of that machine. It's a tragedy that Sony seem to assumed that previous success means they can do whatever they like and get away it. They only have to look as far as Nintendo to see how easy it is to fall flat on your arse.
So I cling to the faint hope that Sony will realise that a lower price (bigger loss) at launch time will pay off in the medium to long term. Because I want one of these consoles. But I can live without it!
But a few of the games really look good. The new F1 game looks utterly amazing..... there was a clip on YouTube that left me open mouthed at the speed and damage modelling as a renault left the track and broke a suspension arm. That game alone made me get twitchy fingers for my wallet! Gundam looks bloody stunning! Same also for Unknown Realms.
But the one that is really making me go all gooey is Motor Storm. Oh fuck me that does look totally fucking awesome.!
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Twisted, check out the HD quality previews for F1 on gametrailers.com they're even more amazing, you can see the detail down to the glossy reflections of the objects/scenery on the car etc. Very slick looking I do agree, I just hope you can do the old F1 Psygnosis dirty tricks like using the cars infront for brakingTwistedScrote wrote:I'm also looking forward to the launch of PS3... I own a 360 and tho I bloody love the thing I try not to get all fanboi over any particular machine. Like OBSAK I have a collection of consoles which thanks to Ebay and the next gen arriving means it's been a good year to pick up a good deal.
My personal feelings are that Sony have a mountain to climb with the new PS3. Although the 'man in the street' will just buy into the whole 'Wow the new Playstation is here!!!!' vibe I think to the slightly more geeky amongst the populace.. ie the softies at large, It's been a bad year for Sony. The DRM fiasco, the poorly handled E3 presentation and the pricing points are making the lure quite a bit weaker this time around... A strong launch package would have been a massive salvo to Microsoft but there seems to be a panic to the launch IMHO. I would of waited till the spring and made sure that there was a hell of a lot more consoles available for the inevitable clamour for the unit. (I know that it's spring for us in europe ! I'm referring to the Japanese and USA launches) Some of the games (read cutscenes) looked very impressive 6 months ago. The problem with those, is that it gave MS the ammunition to mock it and show 'actual footage' from the 360. It's only now that games are starting to look finished in any way and the opportunity to wow the socks off people has been slightly diluted.
The massive price of the unit is also a significant barrier. The 360 was a stretch for me... it's the most I've ever spent on a console and although I am loving it, I waited until a few games came out that I thought I would enjoy and then finally got it.
£500 (ish) quid for the console? It would still be sitting on the shelf in the shop. It's not because I cant afford it. It just crosses WAY over what I'm prepared to pay.
And that should be a serious wake up call to Sony. I have a bad feeling that an awful lot of people are going to wait for a price drop that I doubt Sony can afford.... Billions have been spent creating this wonderful piece of hardware, and I truly believe that the Cell processor is an amazing step forward for computing in general. But I have a nagging feeling that if enough people are going to play the waiting game and see if the prices drop for xmas 07 then there is a very real prospect of Sony folding.
Priced at £300 quid and I would expect a sizable group of 360 owners would get this system as another cutting edge console for the inevitable PS3 exclusives that will be rolling out. Hell I know I would raise the dough for that... but the price of the console now means that it hardly registers on my radar. I will look again in 18 months or so as a possible window of purchase but by then the 360 will be getting some amazing games itself as the studios learn how to squeeze everything out of that machine. It's a tragedy that Sony seem to assumed that previous success means they can do whatever they like and get away it. They only have to look as far as Nintendo to see how easy it is to fall flat on your arse.
So I cling to the faint hope that Sony will realise that a lower price (bigger loss) at launch time will pay off in the medium to long term. Because I want one of these consoles. But I can live without it!
But a few of the games really look good. The new F1 game looks utterly amazing..... there was a clip on YouTube that left me open mouthed at the speed and damage modelling as a renault left the track and broke a suspension arm. That game alone made me get twitchy fingers for my wallet! Gundam looks bloody stunning! Same also for Unknown Realms.
But the one that is really making me go all gooey is Motor Storm. Oh fuck me that does look totally fucking awesome.!
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Old_but_still_a_kid wrote:Twisted, check out the HD quality previews for F1 on gametrailers.com they're even more amazing, you can see the detail down to the glossy reflections of the objects/scenery on the car etc. Very slick looking I do agree, I just hope you can do the old F1 Psygnosis dirty tricks like using the cars infront for brakingTwistedScrote wrote:I'm also looking forward to the launch of PS3... I own a 360 and tho I bloody love the thing I try not to get all fanboi over any particular machine. Like OBSAK I have a collection of consoles which thanks to Ebay and the next gen arriving means it's been a good year to pick up a good deal.
My personal feelings are that Sony have a mountain to climb with the new PS3. Although the 'man in the street' will just buy into the whole 'Wow the new Playstation is here!!!!' vibe I think to the slightly more geeky amongst the populace.. ie the softies at large, It's been a bad year for Sony. The DRM fiasco, the poorly handled E3 presentation and the pricing points are making the lure quite a bit weaker this time around... A strong launch package would have been a massive salvo to Microsoft but there seems to be a panic to the launch IMHO. I would of waited till the spring and made sure that there was a hell of a lot more consoles available for the inevitable clamour for the unit. (I know that it's spring for us in europe ! I'm referring to the Japanese and USA launches) Some of the games (read cutscenes) looked very impressive 6 months ago. The problem with those, is that it gave MS the ammunition to mock it and show 'actual footage' from the 360. It's only now that games are starting to look finished in any way and the opportunity to wow the socks off people has been slightly diluted.
The massive price of the unit is also a significant barrier. The 360 was a stretch for me... it's the most I've ever spent on a console and although I am loving it, I waited until a few games came out that I thought I would enjoy and then finally got it.
£500 (ish) quid for the console? It would still be sitting on the shelf in the shop. It's not because I cant afford it. It just crosses WAY over what I'm prepared to pay.
And that should be a serious wake up call to Sony. I have a bad feeling that an awful lot of people are going to wait for a price drop that I doubt Sony can afford.... Billions have been spent creating this wonderful piece of hardware, and I truly believe that the Cell processor is an amazing step forward for computing in general. But I have a nagging feeling that if enough people are going to play the waiting game and see if the prices drop for xmas 07 then there is a very real prospect of Sony folding.
Priced at £300 quid and I would expect a sizable group of 360 owners would get this system as another cutting edge console for the inevitable PS3 exclusives that will be rolling out. Hell I know I would raise the dough for that... but the price of the console now means that it hardly registers on my radar. I will look again in 18 months or so as a possible window of purchase but by then the 360 will be getting some amazing games itself as the studios learn how to squeeze everything out of that machine. It's a tragedy that Sony seem to assumed that previous success means they can do whatever they like and get away it. They only have to look as far as Nintendo to see how easy it is to fall flat on your arse.
So I cling to the faint hope that Sony will realise that a lower price (bigger loss) at launch time will pay off in the medium to long term. Because I want one of these consoles. But I can live without it!
But a few of the games really look good. The new F1 game looks utterly amazing..... there was a clip on YouTube that left me open mouthed at the speed and damage modelling as a renault left the track and broke a suspension arm. That game alone made me get twitchy fingers for my wallet! Gundam looks bloody stunning! Same also for Unknown Realms.
But the one that is really making me go all gooey is Motor Storm. Oh fuck me that does look totally fucking awesome.!
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No, you broke it. All PS3 games will run at 120Hz, all the time. It's the most powerful machine on the planet.Old_but_still_a_kid wrote:OK fixed that for youYak wrote:'Course, if any ps3 game ever drops a frame more often than the 360 version we all get to go round and personally gouge OBSAK's eyes out with a blunt SIXAXIS
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Haven't read the thread yet, but about time this happened! Was going to start it myself some time ago, but forgot.
Anyways,
MotorStorm looks good to my taste, I just hope the sense of speed comes from the gameplay, since the vids look pretty slow. Anyways, would probably buy this blind if I had the machine.
The Naughty Dog game is probably the one I'm most interested right now. Hope it turns out good.
I don't like what Sony have been doing otherwise, E3 was a moral low point for me and most of the interviews have done nothing to clean their image, just the opposite. I just hope they ditch the attitude and concentrate on what matters to gamers, games. The idea of a next gen WipeOut makes me happy.
EDIT: read the thread now, oh dear...
Anyways,
MotorStorm looks good to my taste, I just hope the sense of speed comes from the gameplay, since the vids look pretty slow. Anyways, would probably buy this blind if I had the machine.
The Naughty Dog game is probably the one I'm most interested right now. Hope it turns out good.
I don't like what Sony have been doing otherwise, E3 was a moral low point for me and most of the interviews have done nothing to clean their image, just the opposite. I just hope they ditch the attitude and concentrate on what matters to gamers, games. The idea of a next gen WipeOut makes me happy.
EDIT: read the thread now, oh dear...
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It's been my view that there will be little difference between 360 and PS3 games, a while back someone from Sony was sacked for saying as much and now:
PS3 and Xbox 360 "look even", says Silicon Knights boss
PS3 and Xbox 360 "look even", says Silicon Knights boss
Sony is the Empire, Ken Kutaragi is the Emperor, Phil Harrison is Darth Vader, and the PS3 is the Death Star in portable form. It will destroy worlds.
Nintendo are the Rebels, zooming around space in their old held-together-with-spit-and-gum hardware, feeling smug about themselves.
That leaves Microsoft, but I'm out of ideas here. The Jar-Jars of the gaming universe?
Nintendo are the Rebels, zooming around space in their old held-together-with-spit-and-gum hardware, feeling smug about themselves.
That leaves Microsoft, but I'm out of ideas here. The Jar-Jars of the gaming universe?
