Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

[RageMatrix]

Zelda looks pretty impressive. But if the Wii had a GPU and CPU in the ballpark performance range of the 360 or PS3 then it could look somethign truely breathtaking.

True. But would you really care if the gameplay was rubbish?

While art direction is vital, having more processing power for graphics and combining it with that fantastic art direction is just as important.

I disagree. If the gameplay is good, uses what graphics power it does have in interesting ways, I really don't think graphics matter much aside from the obvious wow! factor - which will wear off anyway.

Case in point: - my favourite game at the moment is Paper Mario 2. The graphics are charming, but its nothing that you couldn't do in Director or Blitz3D. This is probably the most enjoyable game I've played this year - because the gameplay is fantastic.

I guess I'm just not that impressed by great graphics these days....gameplay is far more important.

[Marius]

Its not the graphics, its the gameplay.

Honestly, I don't recall anyone ever saying that the GC graphics were rubbish and the Wii will have better graphics than that - even if not by much.

Wind Waker had great graphics, as does Paper Mario 2, but thats more to do with art direction than shiny-shaders.

If graphics are that important to you, I'd say you're probably in the wrong thread

I think my problem is not that wii has limited graphical capabilities compared to the xbox360 and ps3 , I'm cool with that as I think nintendo is trying to do something different witch I applaud. It is that this incarnation of Zelda is geared to more realistic graphics , I agree wind walker has stunning graphics with amazing style and imagination.
Certain textures and graphics look fine but look at the ground for example its flat and horrid. For a game that is trying to give us a more adult gritty Zelda it just doesn't seem to be the best way of using the wii.

I'm getting used to this in terms of realism now , so yeah I do think some of the graphics on zelda do come acroos as dreadfull now

What? Dreadful? I find them to be gorgeous. But it depends what you are looking for, I guess. If you are looking for as many polygons as possible as well as that extra layer of gloss the next-gen consoles so happily uses in every game, I can understand the disappointment.

For the record, I find games like Okami and Wind Waker to be far more easy on the eyes than most other next-gen titles I've seen so far. But then again, a gazillion polygons never did impress me. Oblivion tried it, but it still looked like utter crap at times. Just Cause looks great, but again, boring as hell. So what exactly is the point in looking pretty when the rest is lacking? A game is only as good as it's weakest link, and the Zelda-games usually don't have a weak link.

[Roobarb]

No, this is PS1 o' clock:

It's still a quality game to play though, even today. Resistance:Fall of Man wishes in it's dreams it was even 1/10th as good.

Sure if it was super-graphic'd-up and ran on a PS3 it would be an even better experience. But only marginally so i think. And definitely not worth the extra £100's of pounds required to buy the hardware to run it, or the more expensive game price. It's all about balance at the end of the day, and I'm happy with Nintendo's trade-offs.

[Mele]

Dreadful may have been a bit strong , probably best if I said a bit shite

[Marius]

Avi-file for that Zelda trailer, must see:

http://forum.desertqueens.com/richy_tem ... movie2.AVI

Hmm, do you need a special program to run the file? None of my video programs will play it...

[D.J.Fudge]

Zelda-games usually don't have a weak link.

Not once he's found the Goron's Bracelet or Silver Gauntlets anyway

[Samus]

Just two pics to the right from what Mele decided to show was this one:



The rest are here: http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748589/imgs_1.html

The trailer is obviously the best place to form an opinion. Personally, I think the game looks very nice, and I'm sure it's going to be great, I'm actually starting to think about deep-freezing myself for the next month or so.

[Samus]

Avi-file for that Zelda trailer, must see:

http://forum.desertqueens.com/richy_tem ... movie2.AVI

Hmm, do you need a special program to run the file? None of my video programs will play it...

Ouch, just realised it doesn't play on my machine either. I didn't check it after downloading, sorry. Here's the link for the stream, it's pretty fast:

http://us.wii.com/viewer_zelda.jsp?vid=9

Definitely worth watching.

[D.J.Fudge]

Just two pics to the right from what Mele decided to show was this one:



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Flashback 6 years

[grue]

I think the top one wins hands down. The second is too generic looking.

[Deckard]

http://www.t3.co.uk/news/247/games/game ... _confirmed

so a fiver for a N64 game then, four for a Snes and 2.50 for Nes..ummm

[grue]

We so need a wireless Wii Arcade Stick!

[RageMatrix]

http://www.t3.co.uk/news/247/games/gamecube/wii_virtual_console_titles_confirmed

so a fiver for a N64 game then, four for a Snes and 2.50 for Nes..ummm

I have no problem with that pricing scheme at all. Nobody complained when Mario Advance 2 (Super Mario World) was sold for 24.99 for the GBA. Ditto with Zelda III.

[Yak]

Just two pics to the right from what Mele decided to show was this one:



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Flashback 6 years

that'd be the Horse's Cock Sword then .

:yesIsaidhorsescock:

[Alarm]

http://www.t3.co.uk/news/247/games/gamecube/wii_virtual_console_titles_confirmed

so a fiver for a N64 game then, four for a Snes and 2.50 for Nes..ummm

Also, £4 for Megadrive and ('from') roughly £3 for PC Engine games.

Wonder when (and how much) the MSX and C64 games will start to appear?

I have no problem with these prices - I'd happily pay £4 for Actraiser or £3 for Super Star Soldier.