The Sony PS3 thread (apparently *still* obnoxious!)

[Bubba]

True, but in the case of GTA Rockstar usually take advantage of the more powerful platform - the Xbox versions of GTA were a lot smoother and more detailed than the PS2 releases. As far as I know they design their games around the more powerful tech and scale them down to other platforms. I'm guessing they'll look pretty much identical this time around though, it'll all be about the controller, load times, downloadable content and suchlike I suppose.

Hmm, I'd agree with you, but there titles weren't multiplatform - they were developed by a separate studio. I found the difference between PS2 San Andreas and Xbox San Andreas negligable, and certainly found Vice City to overall "look better" on the xbox than San An did - longer view distance, "nicer" graphics (this one is hard to quantify, and is probably largely personal oppinion) and faster load times.

I'd say San An is a perfect example of a Lowest Common Denominator port.

Can't help but feel this is all slightly irrelevent anyway as from all accounts the systems are reasonably comparable. Certainly as broadly so as Xbox v PS2, maybe even more so...

Cheers

Bubba

[teamonkey]

Hmm, I'd agree with you, but there titles weren't multiplatform - they were developed by a separate studio.

No it wasn't.

It's pretty much the same game with higher textures, better audio, more CPU cycles available and more free memory. Xbox San Andreas running on the 360 is the best version. But San Andreas was a PS2 title foremost and then upgraded to an Xbox/PC title later. The next one will be truly multiplatform, but potentially dumbed down to run on the lowest common denominator.

[Bubba]

No it wasn't.

It's pretty much the same game with higher textures, better audio, more CPU cycles available and more free memory. Xbox San Andreas running on the 360 is the best version. But San Andreas was a PS2 title foremost and then upgraded to an Xbox/PC title later. The next one will be truly multiplatform, but potentially dumbed down to run on the lowest common denominator.

Unless I'm very much mistaken, GTA3 and Vice City on the xbox were ported by Rockstar Vienna. Whereas San An was all Rockstar North?

What I was trying to say was that San An risks being dumbed down to run on the lowest common denominator . Which better not be the Wii

Cheers

Bubba

[Darkflame]

"The PS3 and Xbox360 will have no noticeable average difference in graphical quality over their lifetime.
Some things will look better on one, some on the other.
Most identical." ~ DF Nov14th 2006

(lets see if that quote comes back to haught me )

it's on bbc news now

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6142782.stm

The stupidity of what I just read boggles the mind, truly the ravings of a hardcore fanboy.

Quite. He bought a couple of games he didn't want because they were better than the other launch titles? Why not wait until there are games available you want to buy?

Its all about owning something before other people.
Its the show-off smug factor.
These arnt real gamers either.

If you're not a huge Zelda fan like me then the Wii launch isn't full of must have titles.

But you dont have to be a Zelda fan at all to see its a must have title


Incidently, when has any machine launched with more then 1 must have, if any? Seems to be launch line ups as good as the Wii's are rare by default.

[Kronos]

Well it will be a fair while before you can take games on the 360 and PS3 and compare them. For whatever reason only just now Lost Planet and Gears of War have only just made the 360 look more than a mid range PC.

Gears looks really nice on 360, only thing you can buy that comes close to looking like running on similar hardware to Resistance.

And also that identical shot of the tunnel on RR6 and RR7 does show a fair bit of difference in whats being rendered, how much you notice it on a game as fast as RR is debatable, especially on SD TVs.

Rockstar North = Yes for GTA SA(PC anyway). And yes the draw distance is so bad it makes flying the planes a joke on either console

Launch games are always a bit iffy, I did love NFSMW, if only it wasn't so iffy on certain parts of the map on framerate (I have seen it drop to single figures which is just WRONG!) Who knows, not like Im going to spend £1000 to play one game which might not even work online outside Japan

[gravy]

Launch games are always a bit iffy

Whaaaaaaaaattttttttt?

I thought they were going to show PS3 Superiority and be a general validation of arrogance for Sony?

[ravuya]

Fuck playing games on it, let's take it to bits!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHS07EFGZ3g

Fuck yeah. Suck it down, screws.

[gravy]

This is all sounding very familiar:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061114/tc_nm/sony_dc_2

TOKYO (Reuters) - Sony Corp. (6758.T) said on Tuesday its new video game console, the PlayStation 3, does not run some PlayStation and PlayStation 2 software titles properly, the latest problem the electronics maker has encountered in its cash cow game business.

Sound is eliminated on some software titles when played on the PS3, while some other titles do not play on the latest machine at all.

The PS3, launched in Japan on Saturday, is supposed be compatible with game software designed for its previous models.

Sony shares were up 0.9 percent at 4,730 yen by midday, underperforming the Tokyo stock market's electrical machinery index (.IELEC.T), which gained 1.72 percent. Shares in rival Nintendo Co. Ltd. (7974.OS) were up 1.4 percent at 26,070 yen.

Satoshi Fukuoka, a spokesman for Sony Computer Entertainment, said the game unit of Sony is checking the compatibility of the PS3 with some 8,000 game titles launched in Japan for the PS and PS2, but declined to give the number of games found incompatible so far.

The Sankei Shimbun daily said on Tuesday about 200 PS and PS2 titles are likely to have compatibility problems.

Fukuoka said Sony plans to solve the problems by online upgrading of system software for the PS3.

By the highly anticipated PS3 launch, Sony is pitting itself against Microsoft Corp.'s (Nasdaq:MSFT - news) already available Xbox 360 and Nintendo's Wii, which will hit U.S. stores on Sunday.

Sony plans to start rolling out the PS3 in North America on Friday. Gamers in Europe must wait until March due to a glitch in commercial production of blue laser diodes, a key component of the game gear's Blu-ray high-definition DVD player.

Sony sold 88,400 units of its PS3 in the first two days of the Japan launch, leaving most stores without any stock, video game magazine publisher Enterbrain said on Monday.

Sony aims to ship 6 million units of the PS3 by March.

[Tuur]

Gears looks really nice on 360, only thing you can buy that comes close to looking like running on similar hardware to Resistance.

You got that backwards kid.

And also that identical shot of the tunnel on RR6 and RR7 does show a fair bit of difference in whats being rendered...

It's a successor, coming a year later. Nuff said.

[aureole]

Oooo, I bet I know which games were doing naughty things with the sound controller that they probably shouldn't.

[Rod_S]

Why would it be a disaster?

Because Capcom are THE multiplatform developer, the best there is. Over the last few years they've been consistently pumping out excellent games, some of them all time classics, on all formats. Surely you don't need me to point that out to you.

I can't see it happening anyway, but it did make my balls tighten when I read the article.

"The PS3 and Xbox360 will have no noticeable average difference in graphical quality over their lifetime.
Some things will look better on one, some on the other.
Most identical." ~ DF Nov14th 2006

Probably an accurate prediction.

[Kemper_Boyd]

"The PS3 and Xbox360 will have no noticeable average difference in graphical quality over their lifetime.
Some things will look better on one, some on the other.
Most identical." ~ DF Nov14th 2006

(lets see if that quote comes back to haught me )

It's been clear for a long time that the PS3 doesn't have any obvious
advantages in terms of graphics. That advantage lies with the CPU.
So I'd not really expect to see more detailed textures or geometry
on the PS3. You might see better animation, maybe more use of
higher order surfaces, better physics and so on. Objects, surfaces and
triangles, rather than vertices, fragments and pixels. I wouldn't expect
to be able to look at a screen shot and see the 'superiority of the PS3',
but you might see it playing a game.

When though? I've no idea.

[Mele]

There is some right backlash brewing with the ps3 when 5live has just reported on the main news that "there is anger with the latest PlayStation not being backwards compatible with some games".

I cant remember the mainstream media announcing this about the xbox360.

[Bubba]

There is some right backlash brewing with the ps3 when 5live has just reported on the main news that "there is anger with the latest PlayStation not being backwards compatible with some games".

I cant remember the mainstream media announcing this about the xbox360.

Yeah, Sony have made a bigger thing about it than Microsoft though . Also it could be something to do with the Japanese launch lineup being disappointing at best!

Cheers

Bubba

[Roobarb]

Launch games are always a bit iffy

Whaaaaaaaaattttttttt?

I thought they were going to show PS3 Superiority and be a general validation of arrogance for Sony?

Whatchu complainin' about? Haven't the mighty Sony given us PS3 Mediocrity and general proof of arrogance? Be thankful, minions!