The Sony PS3 thread (apparently *still* obnoxious!)

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gilesgoat wrote:You don't know how bad some comments are for MY nerves and how many
times I am biting my lips man and doing my best to watch somewhere else ...
Watch somewhere else then. It's a thread to stop PS3 fanboys pissing in other ponds, but the reverse also applies. If you don't like / aren't interested by the PS3, don't bother.

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gilesgoat wrote: You don't know how bad some comments are for MY nerves and how many
times I am biting my lips man and doing my best to watch somewhere else ...
Those times are better to look away than post something so low as a yawn. If an attack is directed to you or yours then go for it all the way, but answering like that in a thread that is specificaly launched for celebrating the object of discussion is a bit *meh* IMHO.
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grue wrote:
gilesgoat wrote: You don't know how bad some comments are for MY nerves and how many
times I am biting my lips man and doing my best to watch somewhere else ...
Those times are better to look away than post something so low as a yawn. If an attack is directed to you or yours then go for it all the way, but answering like that in a thread that is specificaly launched for celebrating the object of discussion is a bit *meh* IMHO.
Do you have a problem for that ?

If yes PM me otherwise let's end this thing here and let's move on.
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gilesgoat wrote: Do you have a problem for that ?

If yes PM me otherwise let's end this thing here and let's move on.
Problem? Not a problem as it is no. I'm just used to read your opinions in a civilised and well detailed manner so it took me by surprise that you answered like that.

And no, I'm not going to PM you, I said it publicly so nobody has to PM others for something like that. It's just good and fair manners.
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Rod_S wrote:
With Wii's distinct identity, and PS3's bottomless potential, both leave the 360 feeling like the last of the old breed. Despite Live and Arcade, the Ring of Light and achievement points, the 360 now looks like the pinnacle of a process of console evolution, finishing a line drawn from Playstation to Dreamcast to Xbox. And, despite the stark contrast between the two new consoles (Wii & PS3), this is the key they share. PS3 and Wii are simply too disruptive to belong to that lineage: there is no map for where Sony and Nintendo are about to take you.
This is going to sound like pissing on other peoples fun, but honestly I have no axe to gring and will no doubt own a PS3 at some point in the future, however...

I've been reading and hearing so many snippets and sound bytes like that recently that I just can't help but feel that Sony has been buying press coverage, and favourable press coverage for the PS3.

In the quoted article above, what does "bottomless potential" mean really? it can't really be talking about the physical processing and graphics performance of the system because from what I have seen and read in technical articles and technical observations from people who's views I respect, while the PS3 may have more raw power, maybe even significant more raw power, in real application currently it's pretty much level pegging with XBox360 and when they start to optimise the stink out of it and understand the platform they are not going to be achieving orders of magnitude difference over the Xbox360 are they? maybe they'll get twice the performance, which certainly isn't "Bottomless" in my view.

From what has been reported and demonstrated nothing in the online offering challenges XboxLive, and at best it could achieve slightly better maybe, but not "Bottomless"

As a media hub in your living room? I'm yet to be convinced, and certainly nothing leaps and bounds ahead of XBox360.

The only place I can see Bottomless Potential is in the area of Brand Loyalty.

In all honesty it sounds more like the journalists are being wowed by Sony selling up the whole power of the Cell etc. and not taking the time to research the situation. They are being blinded by the glare from their free "review" PS3s and simply quoting Sony's marketing literature and PR.

To highlight the situation I saw BBC Click on News 24 a couple of days ago where they were featuring the PS3 in the studio, it was like a 15 minute paid for segment from Sony with the presenters fauning over the machine and blowing compliments up it's arse left right and centre with no consideration of if they were genuinely needed or not. I could almost feel teh Sony PR representatibe just off camera holding the "reward" PS3 and evaluating whether this journalist deserved it or not. Terrible terrible reporting by the BBC.

The best information I took away from the BBC show was the following:
* It's a fucking HUGE machine. Even Elaine commented on this and she hasn't been following the buildup.

* I don't like the styling. This is just a personal thing.

* It really really does attract fingerprints. (The BBC unit on screen was only used for display purposes and was in the forgroiund of the shot with the reporters and TVs in the background, so you think they would have kept it clean, but there were quite a few finger prints and smudges visible - it looked terrible).

So in summary IMHO Sony is either buying coverage, or journalists are giving it anyway expecting either kickbacks or maybe hoping not to get blacklisted in the future.

It's a great time to be into video gaming, but I can't see PS3 justifying the praise it's getting right now. There's strengths in all three platforms and it's way to early to tell whether any one format will die, or kill off the competition.
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All good points and well made Sty, but the Edge article does address most of the issues you pointed out and they do have their concerns over certain aspects of the machine - lack of rumble and lightweight pad being the biggie. It's a balanced and neutral article with an upbeat vibe, any excitement and anticipation about PS3's prospects does seem to be genuine.
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Rod_S wrote:the Edge article does address most of the issues you pointed out
So, for those of us that don't subscribe to Edge, what did they say?
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Hi i'm new around here.I've heard that Yakyakers
are hardcore gamers who are into many different
and obscure platforms.I would like some info on the PS3.

I've done a search on Yakyak and all i could
find was "Sony is evil","nintendo is better",
etc, not useful really.

Is Yakyak's search engine borked?

Apologies if this has been posted already.

I thought i would ask in this thread because
it mentioned PS3 in the thread title.

Sorry i'm a noob. :oops:

Cheers in advance for any help. :D

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Roobarb wrote:
Rod_S wrote:the Edge article does address most of the issues you pointed out
So, for those of us that don't subscribe to Edge, what did they say?
I can't transcribe the entire cover feature article and PS3 supplement, I'd be here all night. Basically they love the Wii and PS3 but do recognise that neither are perfect, and give the 360 a drubbing for being a "me too" console throughout the article. It was a bit like an obituary for the 360.
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Rod_S wrote:
Roobarb wrote:
Rod_S wrote:the Edge article does address most of the issues you pointed out
So, for those of us that don't subscribe to Edge, what did they say?
I can't transcribe the entire cover feature article and PS3 supplement, I'd be here all night. Basically they love the Wii and PS3 but do recognise that neither are perfect, and give the 360 a drubbing for being a "me too" console throughout the article. It was a bit like an obituary for the 360.
If I was Sony that's almost exactly what I'd want them to write too.
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Rod_S wrote:
Roobarb wrote:
Rod_S wrote:the Edge article does address most of the issues you pointed out
So, for those of us that don't subscribe to Edge, what did they say?
I can't transcribe the entire cover feature article and PS3 supplement, I'd be here all night. Basically they love the Wii and PS3 but do recognise that neither are perfect, and give the 360 a drubbing for being a "me too" console throughout the article. It was a bit like an obituary for the 360.
Er, except that the 360 was actually out first and if anything it's Sony giving "me too" with regard to catching up with all the online stuff.

x360 and ps3 are broadly similar in capacity. I just don't get how they could say that there is something magical that puts ps3 in the future and ox360 in the past. It's specious.
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Mark wrote:If I was Sony that's almost exactly what I'd want them to write too.
I doubt if there's any great conspiracy or corruption behind the article, I mean you could easily say "If I was Nintendo that's almost exactly what I'd want them to write too". Edge are neutral, if you disagree with their opinion it's not evidence of shady back-handers. Christ.
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Purple Grapefruit wrote:Hi i'm new around here.I've heard that Yakyakers
are hardcore gamers
...
I've done a search on Yakyak and all i could
find was "Sony is evil","nintendo is better",
etc, not useful really.
Welcome to "hardcore gamer" territory. Enjoy the rest of the internet.

@Rod_S: I wouldn't write off the 360 yet, and the Edge article does seem very gushing (as did the previous Wii and 360 specials). The pad is good - it's light but is comfortable and feels very solid in your hand, and the lack of rumble isn't really an issue. There are several issues with the PS3 (it inherits the PSP's fingerprint magnetism for one) but none of them are to do with the pad.
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Yak wrote:[Er, except that the 360 was actually out first and if anything it's Sony giving "me too" with regard to catching up with all the online stuff.

x360 and ps3 are broadly similar in capacity. I just don't get how they could say that there is something magical that puts ps3 in the future and ox360 in the past. It's specious.
It's weird because there's a lot of positivity for 360 games in the previews section, but in the articles they're kinda looking over their shoulder at it. Conversely there's fuck all to get excited about for the PS3 in the previews, they still don't rate Resistance. It's all a bit contradictory.

Edit: Also, they mention that Lair is technically beyond anything that the 360 will ever be capable of.
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I have absolutely no doubt that i will have a PS3 by this time next year BUT at the moment even disregarding the price and the availibilty I dont want one now - there is absolutely no allure/interest there for me..this should worry them frankly..i like Yak have always been an early adopter..
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