The Sony PS3 thread (apparently *still* obnoxious!)

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Bubba wrote:As has previously been said, comments that Lair is technically beyond the 360 over it's *entire lifetime*
It won't even be 'beyond the 360' now. Nobody at Edge has any idea at all about this stuff. They're just trotting out what they've been told. Same for the entire "PS3 T3H W1N!" article.

Complete. Load. Of. Bollocks.
Dio wrote:but PS2 is far less than half what it was made out to be.
Absolutely, and we all know how history likes to repeat itself ;)
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Peet wrote:
grue wrote:
Old_but_still_a_kid wrote:It's like saying "Olive oil is the daddy, so deep fry your chips in it" when clearly it is great but it is not right for that particular job ;)
Actually it is. Healthier and way more tasty than other oils. :)
Yeah, olive oil is really nice for popcorn at least. You just have to watch out so it doesn't catch fire, I suppose.
Ha Ha yes olive oil is the daddy I agree, it's all I use when it's possible but you wouldn't deep fry chips in olive oil because the flash point is way to low for deep frying which was the analogy, infact incase anyone really cares, get some ground nut oil and do the old two stage blanch+fry thing with some thick cut potato into chips and you wont be dissapointed :) That was my point though, no matter how great something is it can never be the best for everything ;)
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As for the other 1000 comments since my last post...

well yes, I kinda started this thread for people who DON'T hate Sony for whatever reasons. I don't mind heated discussion but as others have said if you really don't want a PS3 or have no inclination to even believe it is a good machine simply because of the makers badge on it then really this isn't the thread for such people.The thread title is just a bit of fun really, not to be taken that seriously it just seamed like a nice idea at the time of all the negative Sony threads when I created it ;)

I think the whole PS3 vs 360 thing is a bit of a grey area, for the simple fact that these are launch titles on PS3 and the fact that IMO only Lost Planet and Gears really push the 360 beyond the mid-range pc game look graphically.

Yes I want a PS3. Why? ok... think about this for a second...how much is a 360, a budget "PC", and a Blu-Ray/HDDVD video player? Well that's exactly what you will be getting from Sony, all 3.

We have no idea whether Blu-Ray or HDDVD will win, or even if they will just co-exist until a dual format capable player is released. But what we do know is there isn't much wrong technically with a PS3 for a console, and it is man enough to surf the web and write a nasty letter about last nights parking ticket to the council using open office on Linux aswell as do the whole MP3 divx thing, and then there's still the unknown factor of Blu-Ray movie player. Value for money is just a point of view but a £400 PC will not play games like a PS3 even if it will run office 2003 miles better, it doesn't have to be the best PC in the world, just good enough for the basic things people use a PC for in the budget range IMO, only time will tell though.

So result, I have a MAC, I have a PC and Laptop, now hopefully I will have a totally alien computer, a 3rd choice to play with soon, these are exciting times for any lover of computers wherever your personal loyalties may rest :)
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Old_but_still_a_kid wrote:if you really don't want a PS3 or have no inclination to even believe it is a good machine simply because of the makers badge on it then really this isn't the thread for such people.
Well, tough titty :lol: Doesn't work like that does it? Or shall we create a "Wii is shit", "PS3 is shit" etc. threads too? ;)
Old_but_still_a_kid wrote:I think the whole PS3 vs 360 thing is a bit of a grey area
..except when it's people who are actually working with both machines telling you what they think, surely?
Old_but_still_a_kid wrote:Yes I want a PS3. Why? ok... think about this for a second...how much is a 360, a budget "PC", and a Blu-Ray/HDDVD video player? Well that's exactly what you will be getting from Sony, all 3.
If that's how you want to justify it :) But given that you could buy a 360, HD-DVD drive and a PC that will certainly be a better "PC" than you're going to get with the PS3/Linux combo... Oh, and you'd actually have some games worth playing, too.

But, you already have a PC, and a 360, so why you don't just buy the HD-DVD player and get everything you need for 1/4 the price...
Old_but_still_a_kid wrote:But what we do know is there isn't much wrong technically with a PS3 for a console
Strange comment. Did anyone specifically tell you that?

Anyway, I don't think anybody is trying to say "PS3 SUXX0R". It's just the insistance from certain quarters that it's so much better than everything else, which, by all accounts, is a complete load.
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Snakey wrote:Anyway, I don't think anybody is trying to say "PS3 SUXX0R". It's just the insistance from certain quarters that it's so much better than everything else, which, by all accounts, is a complete load.
Except when anyone dares to say anything at all positive about the PS3 in this forum.

You may like your XBox360, Wii or whatever, and fair enough to you, but when I look at the games out now or coming out in the Xbox360's (or Wii's) future, it just doesn't impress me. Sure, the PS3 line-up is crap now, but some of the future titles are what make me want to buy one (frankly I couldn't care less about Blu-Ray at the moment).
What makes this choice even easier for me is when I look at how many Gamecube or DS games I have compared to PS2 or PSP games. It is really all about the games, something many people seem to have forgotten. The fact that some people get so nasty just because of the company that makes the console just beggars belief. Oh well, I should remember that the internet still doesn't represent the general public.
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Dio wrote:but PS2 is far less than half what it was made out to be.
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A realistic target or not, seeing that at the time was all...

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I spose there aint much gloating here in reality cause no fuckers got one whereas we seem to have plenty of people here with 360s (obv) and Wii's.
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I've nothing against the future of the PS3, and have said constantly that I plan on getting one in two years. It's the present I've been ragging on over and over again. Hearing endlessly that the PS3 is the best thing ever (remember, I work retail) while looking at the games on the shelf (and it really is all about the games, as mentioned three posts above) I'm just not seeing it.

If I'd bought a PS3 on launch I'd own zero games. I bought a Wii and got three, all fantastic, and Wii Sports to boot. I even got a few odds & ends when the 360 launched, and that was a pretty sad collection of titles.

By the way, that Edge article is utter shit. I don't normally say that about things I haven't read, but crapping on the 360 is just stupid. Every one of the new consoles has it's standout strength, and the 360's is its online component. As impressed as I was by hundreds of trolls running around in Kameo last year, it was Xbox Live's integration into everything (plus Geometry Wars:RE) that told me I'd bought a true next-gen system.

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Snakey wrote:
Bubba wrote:As has previously been said, comments that Lair is technically beyond the 360 over it's *entire lifetime*
It won't even be 'beyond the 360' now. Nobody at Edge has any idea at all about this stuff. They're just trotting out what they've been told. Same for the entire "PS3 T3H W1N!" article.
You're both presuming they meant graphically - maybe it was a reference to the SIXAXIS motion sensitivity (they say it works well and is intuitive in Lair) or maybe purely the amount of data that is stored on the Blu-Ray disc. But yeah, it did strike me as being a bit premature and the kind of comment that would come back to bite them on the ass in the future.

By the way, that Edge article is utter shit. I don't normally say that about things I haven't read, but crapping on the 360 is just stupid
Giving Microsoft a good kicking is part of the daily round, Edge are just doing their duty. JOKE LOL. Also, don't forget that the article is as pro Wii as it is PS3.

Another quote about the controllers - "The dazzling white (Wii) Remote's other main capability is to make a 360 pad look decidedly grubby". OOF.
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Rod_S wrote: "The dazzling white (Wii) Remote's other main capability is to make a 360 pad look decidedly grubby". OOF.
They might be taking the piss but there are [braindead] people out there who will take this comment as "Teh 360 is TeH SuXX0rZZ".
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Some more fuel from the intro. Here they've just finished talking about how the 360 has an installed user base of 4.6 million, not the projected 10 million, and how the 360 is selling at a slower rate than the original Xbox.
Xbox 360's HD-DVD drive, cooked up in quick time to give the platform more parity with Sony's approach, the token gesture towards more family friendly content, and the strategic unveiling of the first hard Halo III details timed specifically to throw a spanner into the works of Sony's launch, will not bring about a dramatic change in Microsoft's fortunes
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Here they're talking about the noise and about how quiet the PS3 is:
Today's living room devices aren't supposed to chug and wheeze, and PS3 has been built to be entirely non-intrusive. Microsoft's machine, by comparison behaves like, well, a machine
They go on to talk about the "lack of finesse in MS's design" and the "360's garish front end". It's a like for like comparison, and in virtually every instance they prefer the PS3.

Not saying I agree with all of this btw, I mean the article totally falls over when they start looking at the games.
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The 360's fan noise is utterly unacceptable, sure. Easy target and one Microsoft should be looking at alleviating toot suite. I was astonished how loud it is and I'd never buy one in its current form.

I'm with several other people here; I'm anti-PS3 hyperbolae, not anti-PS3.
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grue wrote:
Rod_S wrote: "The dazzling white (Wii) Remote's other main capability is to make a 360 pad look decidedly grubby". OOF.
They might be taking the piss but there are [braindead] people out there who will take this comment as "Teh 360 is TeH SuXX0rZZ".
It's just a stupid comment. Say what you like about the ox360, the pad is one of the best traditional gamepads ever.

I must say I'm quite surprised by all the 360-knocking. It really sounds like someone gave them a bung to knock the 360...
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Absolutely wonderful pad, despite the ugly X button in the center. I love the way it feels, and I love its rumble.

Thing is, I just can't seem to find *one* reason to get excited about PS3.

It's big, ugly, has a crappy controller w/out rumble, and has no games I'm interested in...and even those coming in the future I have a feeling will end up being cross platform. Not trying to preach Sony hate, just trying to be realistic.

360, on the other hand, has so much going for it -- Live, the Arcade, cool design (when standing w/hdd attached anyway), etc. Wii60 all the way.
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I'm pretty excited about the prospect of their being Linux on the PS3. I think you're going to see a concerted effort to develop software with the same utility as XBOX Media Center but without any hinderance from the console vendor as is the case with MS.
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