The Sony PS3 thread (apparently *still* obnoxious!)

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Duck Turkin wrote: The fact that some people get so nasty just because of the company that makes the console just beggars belief. Oh well, I should remember that the internet still doesn't represent the general public.
It's hard to remove a company's reputational stain from it's products no matter how inventively their marketing deparment twist and turn things.

Good point about the games being the proper focus of debate though. PS3 has nothing I want to play right now, but ask me why I bought a gamecube all those years ago. It wasn't for the Ati badge on the front :D
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PS3 does pr0n:
Sony's come one, come all approach to its machine (allowing full internet access, hosting a full distro of Yellow Dog Linux and exerting no Live Arcade style control over its downloaded games), means the wealth of potential content available through the console - from office software to streaming TV and subscription pornography, say, is almost limitless
What they're getting at here is that 360 Live is locked down and "limited", but PS3 online potentially offers way more potential: "It's almost impossible to exhaust the range of PS3's potential".
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I wouldn't like to run Linux with that little memory.
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gravy wrote:I'm pretty excited about the prospect of their being Linux on the PS3. I think you're going to see a concerted effort to develop software with the same utility as XBOX Media Center but without any hinderance from the console vendor as is the case with MS.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the article they talk about PS3 as being a fully functional XBMC replacement.
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HGFB wrote:I wouldn't like to run Linux with that little memory.
I wouldn't serve the forum off it but 256mb should be enough to run a decent media center or MAME
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Yak wrote:I must say I'm quite surprised by all the 360-knocking. It really sounds like someone gave them a bung to knock the 360...
Well, you're biased. There's an Ox involved.. :D

What's probably not obvious is that is there's one way to heaven, then it's by buying a PS3 and all the games. There is the four noble truths of Sony.

1. There is suffering from not owning a PS3.
2. The cause of this suffering is desire for a console manfactured by those of cloven hoof and horns.
3. There is an end to suffering by relinquishing desire for the false chris..consoles and following the one true console.
4. And the way to a end of suffering is to get down to the shops and buying one now. Even if you have to push homeless people, little kids and tired beleagued parents out of the way..and following the Sony eightfold path.

This is:

1. Right view.
If you can't see a PS3 in your vision right now, keep looking around until you see one.

2. Right thought
If you're not thinking of a PS3 morning, noon and night, see a therapist.

3. Right speech
Talk about PS3 all the time. If your friends and family abandon you, then they are weak in the faith and you should associate with others whom believe as you do.

4. Right action
Right action is (1) Not wishing to harm Sony (2) To refrain from stealing income from Sony by not buying every product you can whenever the opportunity arises. (3) To avoid sexual acts that would stop you from using your PS3 (4) To refrain from saying things that are bad about the PS3 and Sony in general and (5) To refrain from

5. Right livelyhood
If you are working on other console or other jobs that might not be serving the PS3 or Sony's interests exclusively, then you are doing the wrong job. Rectify the situation.

6. Right effort
If thoughts of playing other console arises, then seek out and destroy these distractions with extreme prejudice.

7. Right mindfulness
Do not allow anything to distract your focus on the PS3, except the PS4 which will be out in four years..ish.

8. Right concentration
Withdraw from the world and play nothing but the PS3. Nothing else is important.

Don't forget the 10 console commandments as well:

1. Buy a PS3. 2. Buy a PS3 if you didn't before. 3 Buy a PS3 for people without one. 4. Buy a PS3 even if you do have one just in case. 5. Buy a PS3...

*slips ten grand into his pocket for a PR job well done*

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gravy wrote:
HGFB wrote:I wouldn't like to run Linux with that little memory.
I wouldn't serve the forum off it but 256mb should be enough to run a decent media center or MAME
You don't get the full 256MB, ISTR. But still, the point remains: 256MB is more than adequate for running linux. It might be a bit tight if you're doing OOo and all that guff, but it's still adequate. Hell, my original linux box started off with 32MB (although that was fairly tight, and fairly rapidly got upgraded to 96). The memory footprint of a linux install need not be huge.

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It's tight if you're trying to say the PS3 is a modern linux workstation. Sure if you slimmed it down and ran a lightweight WM or just ran it in console mode as a pure server you'd be fine but stuff a default FC5 or Yellow Dog install on there and KDE/Gnome will run like pigshit.

So yes. As a media center it'll be nice but a modern general purpose linux workstation needs more memory.
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The PS3 only has 256M of main memory??? Does the RSX have separate video ram?
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Yep

Another 256mb
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Damn, I had a large stream of invective ready there :)
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:D

Actually if you can't access the GPU via linux streaming a 1080p HD video could be a bit of problem in 256mb ;)
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Didn't the PS2 do Linux too?

Did anyone actually do anything with it?
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Snakey wrote:Didn't the PS2 do Linux too?

Did anyone actually do anything with it?
Oh christ don't get me started on that. We had to run a lab of those filthy things when they suddenly realised they'd promised the students a "Console development lab" and didn't have one. Utterly fucking awful.
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Snakey wrote:Didn't the PS2 do Linux too?

Did anyone actually do anything with it?
You had to buy extra HW to run it and it was quite expensive. The PS3 will allow you install foriegn OSes (not just linux) out of the box. All you have to do is dload the ISO onto a CD and install it onto the PS3 HD. Afaik I it runs under a Sony hypervisor which means you can't access pads or the GPU.

The XBOX runs a subset of Win32 and through chipping that got a lot of non-games useage. I can't see why that's going to less popular than bedroom coded XBOX apps were. Especially as this is legit useage of the console and the tools to do it will be freely available to anyone who fancies developing for it.

I don't think it's that smart a move for Sony, they really need to have people buying software for their machines to claw back the subsidies they're pumping into the HW right now.

But when the PS3 is at £350 or less I'd be interested in one just for having a noiseless media center box under the telly where the development for it is open sourced and much more likely to support stuff like DivX than HW offered by MS or Apple
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