Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

[fog]

There are loads of reports of damage caused by Wiimote slippage and broken straps.

Be careful kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkdihGX7iWM&eurl=

[HGFB]

I remember everyone saying similar things about the DS when it was announced. Gimmicky, underpowered, what do you need 2 screens for?, 5:1 etc. Sure a lot of tat has been released that makes bad use of the control scheme (Rainbow Islands we're looking at you) but god damn the DS is bloody nice.

I think it'll be the same with the Wii. A lot of badly written innapropriate crap but also a lot of really clever and really well done fun games. I've got my 360 for stuff like GoW. I'll have my Wii for the sort of stuff the DS does well.

[Deckard]

Aye and the press raved about the PSP even overlooking the obvious short comings of the UMD format.

[Flabio]

But the press were dead right with the virtual boy.

Sometimes you just can't predict whats going to happen with a new bit of kit until people have developed on it a bit.

[Deckard]

27 million DS sold so far worldwide -

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_i ... tory=11793

and 22 for the PSP

http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/

[Snakey]

27 million DS sold so far worldwide -

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_i ... tory=11793

and 22 for the PSP

http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/

Yes, which just shows you that the DS is not "kicking arse" quite as much as anybody seems to think. In fact, 5 million can easily be accounted for by the people who bought the original DS and then shelled out for a DS Lite. A hell of a lot more than 5 million can, in fact.

But it's beside the point. Wii/PS3 are very different animals to DS/PSP. It's not even "all about the games" anymore. It's very unpredictable.

[Samus]

Go on, tell me it's wrong.

Well, first of all, in good games like Zelda, Trauma Center, Wii Play, Wii Sports, Super Monkey Ball, Excite Truck, Madden, Red Steel and CoD, this:

When half the games require you to wave the thing around - and it doesn't matter how, where or why you wave it around, as long as you do..

..will get you nowhere.

Secondly, the whole intuitive-thing, I don't think that even you can deny that something like Wii Tennis is not more intuitive than other Tennis games around? Afaik, and using common sense, Wii Sports is so far the only game that's supposed to show off the whole "gaming for everyone" approach.

Wii Tennis, in full effect:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUOeG4ayv7E

[Snakey]

Secondly, the whole intuitive-thing, I don't think that even you can deny that something like Wii Tennis is not more intuitive than other Tennis games around?

Well be honest. If you'd never heard anything at all about the Wii, and someone shoved that remote in your hand, would your first instinct be to wave it about? I bet it wouldn't. I think anybodys first instinct on being handed such a device would be to start pressing buttons, personally.

[Darkflame]

Yes, and we can see the PSP success in its massive game and UMD sales!

As for "intuitive" - yeah. Ok. So people who've never seen or heard of it before know exactly what to do without being told? I don't think so. People are not used to waving remotes around to get them to do stuff.

Your really stretching yourself now.
Yes, techicaly, you are right, they need to *know* it has to be waved about.
So, they need to see one person playing it.

But thats hugely different from needing to know the button-combo to do a volly, or a lob, or to add spin.

But it's beside the point. Wii/PS3 are very different animals to DS/PSP. It's not even "all about the games" anymore. It's very unpredictable.

Nope.
Still about the games. Even if Nintendo starts calling some Wii releases "non games".
Nintendos weather and news is just a cheap stealth-tactic to get people playing (and buying) games.

Sony may be trying to get us all blu-rayed up, but the multimedia functions of the PS3 are going to come a very distant second to the games as regards to reasons to buy it, imo.

It is, indeed, unpredictable. Id agree with that.

That's what I'm hoping. Take the basic Mii data and interpret it using each games own graphical style.

Absolutely.
Im very dissapointed in that fact no 3rd party is yet exploring that possibility.

[HGFB]

Secondly, the whole intuitive-thing, I don't think that even you can deny that something like Wii Tennis is not more intuitive than other Tennis games around?

Well be honest. If you'd never heard anything at all about the Wii, and someone shoved that remote in your hand, would your first instinct be to wave it about? I bet it wouldn't. I think anybodys first instinct on being handed such a device would be to start pressing buttons, personally.

That's not a likely situation though is it?

Which is easier? Put the remote in someone's hand and say "Pretend you're playing tennis" or hand then a joy pad and say "x for back swings, y for smash, sigma for lob and green to do a barrel roll"

Of course that assumes that the Wii game doesn't have just as stupidly complicated control scheme as the other console (NFS Carbon we're looking at you)

[fog]

Secondly, the whole intuitive-thing, I don't think that even you can deny that something like Wii Tennis is not more intuitive than other Tennis games around?

To be fair though Wii Tennis is very much a simplified game compared to other tennis games. I've no doubt you have plenty of control over hitting the ball but you have no control over player movement. Add in analogue stick for movement and it's not quite so intuitive.

[Snakey]

But thats hugely different from needing to know the button-combo to do a volly, or a lob, or to add spin.

...but that sort of stuff isn't often done with a 'combo', is it? Just one button. Won't take long to work that out, will it?

Nope.
Still about the games.

I was more referring to Sonys claims that people would buy the PS3 even if there wasn't any games. Which seems to be true.

[HGFB]

I was more referring to Sonys claims that people would buy the PS3 even if there wasn't any games. Which seems to be true.

I dunno about that. The launch titles weren't alll terrible. If I was buying a PS3 today I'd probably be walking away with Motorstorm at least

[Darkflame]

Secondly, the whole intuitive-thing, I don't think that even you can deny that something like Wii Tennis is not more intuitive than other Tennis games around?

To be fair though Wii Tennis is very much a simplified game compared to other tennis games. I've no doubt you have plenty of control over hitting the ball but you have no control over player movement. Add in analogue stick for movement and it's not quite so intuitive.

Imo, they should have done that, or at least, an option.

But it would still have been drasticaly more simple to understand then other tennis games.
Analogue sticks are fairly easy for a novice to get the hang of from my expirence. It would be less intuitive, but still a huge-step up from other ways to do tennis.

I fully expect and look forward to 3rd partys to be making more "meaty" versions of the Wii-sports games.

[Snakey]

Well, it seems to be true enough that you can't judge how well each system is going to do by the games available for it. Speaking of which, anyone know how Wii/PS3 are doing against each other right now?