Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

[grue]

Well, it seems to be true enough that you can't judge how well each system is going to do by the games available for it. Speaking of which, anyone know how Wii/PS3 are doing against each other right now?

Pulling stuff out of my arse I'd say Wii is on top purely because of Sony's sortages.

[HGFB]

Speaking of which, anyone know how Wii/PS3 are doing against each other right now?

Is there any point comparing yet when there's a large difference in the amount of consoles both companies can produce?

Are you guys doing any Wii games where you work Snakey?

[grue]

Are you guys doing any Wii games where you work Snakey?

Yes but it will use the GC controller.

[namor7]

27 million DS sold so far worldwide -

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_i ... tory=11793

and 22 for the PSP

http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/

I don't think that's accurate info. Last I heard, PSP was more realistically at about 15 mil sold.

[Darkflame]

But thats hugely different from needing to know the button-combo to do a volly, or a lob, or to add spin.

...but that sort of stuff isn't often done with a 'combo', is it? Just one button. Won't take long to work that out, will it?

Well, combo as in "stick plus button"..(spin?)
But even if it was just one button for each shot type, its going to be at least half-a dozen needed.

And yes, compared to the wiimote that would take time to learn.
Its not that memorising "Press square for this type of shot" is that hard, its that its not instinctive. Especialy when the controlls are multiplied up.
If I want to hit the ball "over there", its not instintive at all what buttons will do that.

Im used to games, used to button layouts and controlls, but it would still take me quite awhile to get to know all the shot possibilitys in buttons, that the wiimote will do instinctively.

As a tennis player, I would, I assume have to get used to scaleing my motions down quite a bit with the wiimote. So of course there is a learning curve to it. But it wont be from not knowing how to do something...tilting the wiimote one way will make the ball go down, tilting it the other will make it go up.
I think thats a universal everyone will understand without being told. Humans are pretty good at understand ball motions, and how it would react if hit by something at a specific angle.

Of course, tennis is purhapes the easiest example for a Wii-supported to premote the merits. Theres certainly things i can think of where it wouldnt be easier....football, comes to my mind.
But I think it would universaly be good for any simulation of a real life activity where you are holding something.


(/me waits for some dirty comment about that last line).

Nope.
Still about the games.

I was more referring to Sonys claims that people would buy the PS3 even if there wasn't any games. Which seems to be true.

oh, well, yes, guess so.
Hard to tell untill all those ones on ebay are sold though.
The starting tie-over ratio isnt going to be too accurate.

Allthough, it could be argue its the *promise* of wonderfull,xbox360-beating games to come that is saleing them.

[arbster]

27 million DS sold so far worldwide -

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_i ... tory=11793

and 22 for the PSP

http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/

I don't think that's accurate info. Last I heard, PSP was more realistically at about 15 mil sold.

Well, the information for both is not sold but *shipped*. I don't think anybody knows for sure how many have been bought by punters.

[Wibble]

I love my DS

[grue]

I love my DS

I love your DS too in addition to mine.

[Snakey]

Is there any point comparing yet when there's a large difference in the amount of consoles both companies can produce?

Well, you know, stories about how quickly stuff sold out, if there's still stores with stock available - that kind of stuff is interesting. Haven't heard that much of it.

Are you guys doing any Wii games where you work Snakey?

I can't tell you, but Grue is wrong

[HGFB]

Is there any point comparing yet when there's a large difference in the amount of consoles both companies can produce?

Well, you know, stories about how quickly stuff sold out, if there's still stores with stock available - that kind of stuff is interesting. Haven't heard that much of it.

Well some people got shot at during the PS3 launch and apparently Canadian people like the Wii

[Mark]

Well, it seems to be true enough that you can't judge how well each system is going to do by the games available for it. Speaking of which, anyone know how Wii/PS3 are doing against each other right now?

According to this site...

http://nexgenwars.com/

...nearly 290,000 PS3s compared to 490,000 Wiis, with the 360 somewhere over 7.4 million.

I'm not sure how accurate it is, but it's the only place I know of.

[WiteWulf]

I think it's interesting that a number of games that were originally due to be PS3 exclusives have recently had 360 ports announced. With so few PS3s actually out in the wild I daresay the software sales are going to be relatively low, too. Considering the amount the big games studios invest in games development these days it seems good business sense to cover their bases, but I should think Kutaragi San won't be too impressed!

[Deckard]

and obviously as always with Ninty its about the volume of games sold with/for the system that counts. I reckon the Wii is doing better than the PS3 with that ratio (mirroring the DS V PSP sales situation)

[Roobarb]

27 million DS sold so far worldwide -

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_i ... tory=11793

and 22 for the PSP

http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/

I don't think that's accurate info. Last I heard, PSP was more realistically at about 15 mil sold.

Yes it's the old 'shipped' vs 'sold' Sony misdirection tactic rearing it's ugly head again. 15mil sold sounds about right. The most recent figures i had were ~14million for PSP and 24million for DS.
http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?t=5 ... start=3670

The absolute figures for PSP so far aren't too bad really, considering what everyone else has managed against Nintendo in the handheld space, and the cost of the machine.

What Sony really should be worried about is its performance relative to the DS since the launch of the DS Lite. Worldwide monthly sales since then are ~400K/month for the PSP, ~1600K/month for the DS, and ~275K/month for the GBA. That and the fact that even with fairly close installed bases in the US the monthly software sales for the PSP are half that for the DS.

If this trend continues the DS will leave the PSP way behind, to a greater degree than how the PS2 dominated the home console last generation. Sony really need to address this instead of bullshitting that everything with the PSP is fine and dandy.

[Snakey]

and obviously as always with Ninty its about the volume of games sold with/for the system that counts. I reckon the Wii is doing better than the PS3 with that ratio (mirroring the DS V PSP sales situation)

Yes. Any info on that anywhere?

That and the fact that even with fairly close installed bases in the US the monthly software sales for the PSP are half that for the DS.

I guess that could be partly down to the fact that PSP games tend to be longer. Many people have commented on this being "a bad thing". Maybe they're right.

Sony really need to address this

I'm not sure they really care much anymore. It's all about PS3 now.