The Sony PS3 thread (apparently *still* obnoxious!)

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:39 am 0

See, I really disliked the front-button placement on the Gamecube. It's fine for games like Ikaruga and Mario Kart, but for others like Mario Party, F-Zero or any sports game it's a nightmare.

Thankfully the excellency of the shoulder triggers made up for that

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:55 am 0

Why on earths it bad for F-Zero?
A = Acceletate = biggest, most comfortable to press, button
Makes sense to me.

Post by **Snakey** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:47 am 0

gravy wrote:Come on Snakey, you're making a bunch of assertions about the PS3 that on examination are turning out to be false. They're also mostly negative.

I'm not a believer in "If you don't have anything nice to say then you're best saying nothing" but I do subscribe to the "If you have something negative to say make sure what you're saying is true"

Do me a lemon. It was a well known fact that Blu-Ray was using MPEG2 only, I just hadn't heard that that had now changed.

Besides, encoders for all three formats have been around since before the first Blu-Ray disc was pressed, so that's no bloody excuse.

Saying that perhaps Sony hadn't got the PS3 decoding them until more recently isn't a negative assertion. It's entirely understandable, and probably true.

Duck Turkin · Post by **Duck Turkin** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:17 am 0

Here's some good news I got from the Magic-Box:

The Magic Box wrote: SNK Playmore's director Soichiro Hosoya mentioned that the company will be providing NeoGeo classic titles such as the King of Fighters and Metal Slug series for PlayStation 3, the games can be downloaded from the PlayStation Store.

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:48 am 0

Darkflame wrote:Why on earths it bad for F-Zero?
A = Acceletate = biggest, most comfortable to press, button
Makes sense to me.

That's fine for the early levels, later on you need to start mixing it up

Beer Monkey · Post by **Beer Monkey** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:15 am 0

Thank jeebus that HD-DVD exists or there would have been no reason for Sony to improve the mastering tools and drop the crappy MPEG-2. Nothing can create the degree of pressure that competition can. I'd prefer a single industry-wide format like DVD but you just can't get these idiots to play together any more. It's better to have a format war than a single format controlled by Sony.

As far as the SNK on PS3 stuff goes, my biggest fear is that we will see no online play at all. MS has had plenty of missteps with the Arcade but they are certainly doing the right thing by pushing for online play, new 'skins', achievements, and the like.

gravy · Post by **gravy** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:16 am 0

Snakey wrote:
gravy wrote:Come on Snakey, you're making a bunch of assertions about the PS3 that on examination are turning out to be false. They're also mostly negative.

I'm not a believer in "If you don't have anything nice to say then you're best saying nothing" but I do subscribe to the "If you have something negative to say make sure what you're saying is true"
Do me a lemon. It was a well known fact that Blu-Ray was using MPEG2 only, I just hadn't heard that that had now changed.

Besides, encoders for all three formats have been around since before the first Blu-Ray disc was pressed, so that's no bloody excuse.

Saying that perhaps Sony hadn't got the PS3 decoding them until more recently isn't a negative assertion. It's entirely understandable, and probably true.

You've said the PS3 can't play non MPEG2 codecs is based on the assertion that BRD releases to date have been MPEG2.

That's just wrong, there's been VC-1 MPEG2 BRD discs on the market in the states for for two months now.

And it's easy to find out because all you need to do is a bit of googling.

The PS3's been out for a couple of weeks and I am 100% certain they can play these non MPEG2 Blu-Ray DVDs out of the box.

If that's not the case you'll be able to find loads of people on the net moaning (oh how they love to moan) about not being able to play recent non Sony blu-ray discs. I had a look, I can't find one. All of the PS3 reviews so far has said its an excellent BRD player, no ones mentioned a problem with any discs.

EDIT

In fact here you go:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre ... ge=2&pp=30

I hope that's the end of that.

I'm not sure what's going on here as its coming across as you want to have a big moan about the PS3 and you're making stuff up without even doing some light checking on the net to see if what you're saying is true or not.

Same goes for the stuff about saying you probably won't have access to the BRD drive under Linux. 10 second googling and the real situation is pretty clear.

Also saying you need to have a 1gb to play BRD. Again patently not true and a little bit of googling shows that to be false as well.

Honestly the system has problems, from my point of view they're price and lack of software but there's no need to make stuff up.

Hajile · Post by **Hajile** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:09 pm 0

GrapeApe wrote:FFS...remember the fun old days when consoles were just used to play games.Bit ranty but Ive got stereos and dvd players that do all that other stuff perfectly fine, thankyewverymuch.

That's what I said a while back, and everyone tried to tear me a new one, for, I dunno, not getting with the program, I suppose.

Consoles are for playing games on, and oh look, there's no reason to go for any of the new machines because the old ones are better for games at the moment. That'll change soon, but right now the only reason for buying any of these new ones is "oooh, shiny."

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:21 pm 0

Hajile wrote:
GrapeApe wrote:FFS...remember the fun old days when consoles were just used to play games.Bit ranty but Ive got stereos and dvd players that do all that other stuff perfectly fine, thankyewverymuch.
That's what I said a while back, and everyone tried to tear me a new one, for, I dunno, not getting with the program, I suppose.

Got a link?

Hajile · Post by **Hajile** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:35 pm 0

disciple wrote:
Hajile wrote:
GrapeApe wrote:FFS...remember the fun old days when consoles were just used to play games.Bit ranty but Ive got stereos and dvd players that do all that other stuff perfectly fine, thankyewverymuch.
That's what I said a while back, and everyone tried to tear me a new one, for, I dunno, not getting with the program, I suppose.
Got a link?

This thread, page 35, halfway down. My 'I just want consoles that just play games' rant that half the people here thought was bang out of order.

It descended into a heated debate about the difference between console games and computer games, remember?

I still say that everyone being so confused about which is which proves my point, grumble grumble mutter swear...

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:46 pm 0

Oh you poor martyr you

Tuur · Post by **Tuur** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:05 pm 0

Like a lot of gamers I gave up reading games mags long ago. Sadly the latest issue of Edge - one of the few worth bothering with as an adult - confirmed why. It came with a PS3 supplement that was so embarrassingly biased it might have been written by Sony's PR team over a boozy lunch.

More at: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archi ... .html#more

Yak · Post by **Yak** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:11 pm 0

Tuur wrote:
Like a lot of gamers I gave up reading games mags long ago. Sadly the latest issue of Edge - one of the few worth bothering with as an adult - confirmed why. It came with a PS3 supplement that was so embarrassingly biased it might have been written by Sony's PR team over a boozy lunch.
More at: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archi ... .html#more

Erf. I seriously think I may end up getting the sack when it comes time for me to do my next edge column, if that's true...

I'll pick up a copy in town today to see for myself.

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:17 pm 0

Hajile wrote:
disciple wrote:
Hajile wrote:
GrapeApe wrote:FFS...remember the fun old days when consoles were just used to play games.Bit ranty but Ive got stereos and dvd players that do all that other stuff perfectly fine, thankyewverymuch.
That's what I said a while back, and everyone tried to tear me a new one, for, I dunno, not getting with the program, I suppose.
Got a link?
This thread, page 35, halfway down. My 'I just want consoles that just play games' rant that half the people here thought was bang out of order.

It descended into a heated debate about the difference between console games and computer games, remember?

I still say that everyone being so confused about which is which proves my point, grumble grumble mutter swear...

Looking at that I reckon it only appears "heated" to you because there are a lot of folks disagreeing with what you're saying, lots of incoming for you to respond to.

Can't really see where anyone says you're "bang out of order", I see a large majority disagreeing and some citing examples of why they think so but that's about it.

It's an interesting subject though cos obviously there *is* a difference between pc gaming and console gaming though I'd tend to say it mostly comes down to the user interface (joypad vs mouse) and environment (lounge (sociable or quick gaming) vs computer room (more time spent, more concentration, solo gaming)), possibly deserves a thread of its own.

Tuur · Post by **Tuur** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:18 pm 0

Yak wrote:I'll pick up a copy in town today to see for myself.

Just got mine in the mail. I would advice you to have a huge NCoT at hand.

YakYak

The Sony PS3 thread (apparently still obnoxious!)