Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

[Marius]

I'm glad that "big better faster more" graphics is stopping being the holy grail of a lot of gamers. I want a game to be fun, goddamnit, and something I can pick up and play for 5 mins or 5 hours depending on my mood, and if the kids will leave me in peace.

Is it the 8th of December yet?

I'm not impressed by graphics etc, but neither am I impressed by gimicky
controllers and kiddy games. What I like are good stories in games - storage capacity of the game media and hard drives are a good thing to me.

If the Revolution (Wii is still such a stupid name to say) hadn't had that stupid controller, I might be more interested. Either that or I'll get one and use the wavebird if I can.

So you don't like the name and you don't like the controller. I guess you are a Sony fanboy then, since you have absolutely no weight behind your criticism.

I mean...seriously. It's ok not to like the system, but calling the controller "stupid"? The majority of the gaming industry is jumping up and down in pure joy, since innovation finally has arrived. And you call it "stupid"?

Like, wow...

[Marius]

Maybe it's the fanboy in me (although I own many different consoles) but I see the graphics of PS3 & 360 and they don't make me tick.

So the likes of fl0w, Viva Pinata, Lego Star Wars, GW2 and Space Giraffe do nothing for you?

Anyone that makes such a sweeping statement is making about as much effort to find something a bit different as the person that says all Wii titles are a bunch of novelty mini-games.

Games like Zelda, Okami and FF XII makes me soil my pants in a way none of the games you mentioned are able to. Oblivion was the only "next-gen" game that had me on my toes, and even that was a disappointment in some regards.

Dunno about Space Giraffe, have absolutely no idea what sort of game it is, but my guess is that it would run perfectly fine on a regular xbox.

My point is, when someone claims that the graphical capabilities of the PS3 is of no interest, they might actually be telling the truth. Not one of the games released so far on the 360 is better than most of the games released on the PS2, even if they do look better. But that is mostly superficial gloss, and doesn't improve the gameplay in any way. Dead Rising uses the extra power for something useful by throwing hundreds of zombies at you, but that is the only game so far where, IMO, all that extra power has improved on the actual gameplay.

[Dave]

If the Revolution (Wii is still such a stupid name to say) hadn't had that stupid controller, I might be more interested.

The controller is all right. At first you're like "Wow, this thing is pretty cool!" After using it for a bit though, it's just another way to play games, and loses its novelty. Everyone who's using it looks like a fool, however, so it's perfect for parties.

You shouldn't like/dislike it though until you've played with it for a bit.

As always, it's going to come down to the games. As Bubba has already said, things will be much more interesting a year from now.

[Dave]

Oh, and if there's one real criticism to make about the controllers, is that they have no off switch. If you press any button on them, they turn on, and remain on, for about 10 minutes before the auto-shut off. To force an auto-shut off, you need to remove the batteries and re-insert them. Buying some rechargeable AA's will be a good idea (each wiimote controller takes 2). They don't do a universal power-down like the 360 controllers do when you shut off the system.

My buddies were telling me that the batteries might not last more than 1-2 weeks, but I don't know if that's FUD or not. Just stuff they were repeating from the net. I dunno how people know that, seeing the console is only a week old.

[oxo]

Well the controller shut down long before 10 mins and mine has been
hammered since last Tuesday and the batteries are still showing full
strength with cheapo batteries in it.

Also when you shut the console down the controller DOES power
down as well.

[offyoutoddle]

So you don't like the name and you don't like the controller. I guess you are a Sony fanboy then, since you have absolutely no weight behind your criticism.

No. Quite wrong, I have no plans to get a ps3 yet. Your assuming a lot - I may be a xbox 360 fanboy for all you know. Which I'm not either. I will get what console suits me best when the time comes.

I mean...seriously. It's ok not to like the system, but calling the controller "stupid"? The majority of the gaming industry is jumping up and down in pure joy, since innovation finally has arrived. And you call it "stupid"?

yes that's right. Stupid. I'll say it again, so its clear. Stupid. It's my opinion, and I'm not the majority of the gaming industry.

I don't have the blind faith that this gimmick will work as promised, and I don't like the idea of holding it in a variety of stupid ways to play with it. I would like a simple controller, as my experiences with crap like 'le stick' on the spectrum, or sony's glove for the playstation bears out. I don't think this will be any better, and I am certain it will cause a lot of irritation, not marvelling at it.

it's just my opinion.

[fog]

Maybe it's the fanboy in me (although I own many different consoles) but I see the graphics of PS3 & 360 and they don't make me tick.

So the likes of fl0w, Viva Pinata, Lego Star Wars, GW2 and Space Giraffe do nothing for you?

Anyone that makes such a sweeping statement is making about as much effort to find something a bit different as the person that says all Wii titles are a bunch of novelty mini-games.

Games like Zelda, Okami and FF XII makes me soil my pants in a way none of the games you mentioned are able to. Oblivion was the only "next-gen" game that had me on my toes, and even that was a disappointment in some regards.

Dunno about Space Giraffe, have absolutely no idea what sort of game it is, but my guess is that it would run perfectly fine on a regular xbox.

My point is, when someone claims that the graphical capabilities of the PS3 is of no interest, they might actually be telling the truth. Not one of the games released so far on the 360 is better than most of the games released on the PS2, even if they do look better. But that is mostly superficial gloss, and doesn't improve the gameplay in any way. Dead Rising uses the extra power for something useful by throwing hundreds of zombies at you, but that is the only game so far where, IMO, all that extra power has improved on the actual gameplay.

My point was based on someone dismissing all PS3 & 360 graphics and had nothing to do with gameplay. That's a whole different argument and something for the most part I agree with you about.

The fact is the PS3 & XBox360 are capable of every graphical style that has gone before and a whole bunch of new exciting ones if people have the imagination to see them.

And as the rich visuals of Space Giraffe are so crucial to the gameplay experience of Space Giraffe (not just "superficial gloss") I'm sure Jeff would argue that it couldn't have been done justice on the original XBox.

[PumaG]

So you don't like the name and you don't like the controller. I guess you are a Sony fanboy then, since you have absolutely no weight behind your criticism.

No. Quite wrong, I have no plans to get a ps3 yet. Your assuming a lot - I may be a xbox 360 fanboy for all you know. Which I'm not either. I will get what console suits me best when the time comes.

I mean...seriously. It's ok not to like the system, but calling the controller "stupid"? The majority of the gaming industry is jumping up and down in pure joy, since innovation finally has arrived. And you call it "stupid"?

yes that's right. Stupid. I'll say it again, so its clear. Stupid. It's my opinion, and I'm not the majority of the gaming industry.

I don't have the blind faith that this gimmick will work as promised, and I don't like the idea of holding it in a variety of stupid ways to play with it. I would like a simple controller, as my experiences with crap like 'le stick' on the spectrum, or sony's glove for the playstation bears out. I don't think this will be any better, and I am certain it will cause a lot of irritation, not marvelling at it.

it's just my opinion.

I think the stupid gimmicky Nintendo DS will fail too the Wii was apparently in Nintendo's same bubble of thought.

[Dave]

Well the controller shut down long before 10 mins and mine has been
hammered since last Tuesday and the batteries are still showing full
strength with cheapo batteries in it.

That's good to hear. I thought it was FUD.

Also when you shut the console down the controller DOES power
down as well.

Ah, I missed that then. What probably happened was some of the controllers got pressed/turned on again after the Wii was shut off the other night, and I thought they never turned off.

[Marius]

Maybe it's the fanboy in me (although I own many different consoles) but I see the graphics of PS3 & 360 and they don't make me tick.

So the likes of fl0w, Viva Pinata, Lego Star Wars, GW2 and Space Giraffe do nothing for you?

Anyone that makes such a sweeping statement is making about as much effort to find something a bit different as the person that says all Wii titles are a bunch of novelty mini-games.

Games like Zelda, Okami and FF XII makes me soil my pants in a way none of the games you mentioned are able to. Oblivion was the only "next-gen" game that had me on my toes, and even that was a disappointment in some regards.

Dunno about Space Giraffe, have absolutely no idea what sort of game it is, but my guess is that it would run perfectly fine on a regular xbox.

My point is, when someone claims that the graphical capabilities of the PS3 is of no interest, they might actually be telling the truth. Not one of the games released so far on the 360 is better than most of the games released on the PS2, even if they do look better. But that is mostly superficial gloss, and doesn't improve the gameplay in any way. Dead Rising uses the extra power for something useful by throwing hundreds of zombies at you, but that is the only game so far where, IMO, all that extra power has improved on the actual gameplay.

My point was based on someone dismissing all PS3 & 360 graphics and had nothing to do with gameplay. That's a whole different argument and something for the most part I agree with you about.

The fact is the PS3 & XBox360 are capable of every graphical style that has gone before and a whole bunch of new exciting ones if people have the imagination to see them.

And as the rich visuals of Space Giraffe are so crucial to the gameplay experience of Space Giraffe (not just "superficial gloss") I'm sure Jeff would argue that it couldn't have been done justice on the original XBox.

I would say it's more a matter of programmers actually using all that extra power to create new and interesting graphical styles rather than players having to look for them. Okami is a game that might as well have been released on the 360, since the style used transcends one particular generation of console. Viva Pinanta is the first game that seems to use the power of the 360 in a creative and innovative way rather than stick to a formulaic style.

It's no point in having a machine that is immensely more powerful if all it does is make titties look more real.

Uh, never mind that last statement...

[Marius]

So you don't like the name and you don't like the controller. I guess you are a Sony fanboy then, since you have absolutely no weight behind your criticism.

No. Quite wrong, I have no plans to get a ps3 yet. Your assuming a lot - I may be a xbox 360 fanboy for all you know. Which I'm not either. I will get what console suits me best when the time comes.

I mean...seriously. It's ok not to like the system, but calling the controller "stupid"? The majority of the gaming industry is jumping up and down in pure joy, since innovation finally has arrived. And you call it "stupid"?

yes that's right. Stupid. I'll say it again, so its clear. Stupid. It's my opinion, and I'm not the majority of the gaming industry.

I don't have the blind faith that this gimmick will work as promised, and I don't like the idea of holding it in a variety of stupid ways to play with it. I would like a simple controller, as my experiences with crap like 'le stick' on the spectrum, or sony's glove for the playstation bears out. I don't think this will be any better, and I am certain it will cause a lot of irritation, not marvelling at it.

it's just my opinion.

And you are of course allowed to have you opinion. But disregarding the fact that the majority of the people out there that has actually used it rave about it, Nintendo should at least get kudos for doing something different, something the stagnant gaming industry sorely needs.

If the industry followed your line of thought, we would probably never have seen the analog stick, the lightgun, the DS, the eyetoy and other similar "gimmicky" toys. So you will exuse me if I find calling it "stupid" at this early stage a bit, well, short sighted and narrow minded. But that is just my opinion.

[offyoutoddle]

And you are of course allowed to have you opinion. But disregarding the fact that the majority of the people out there that has actually used it rave about it, Nintendo should at least get kudos for doing something different, something the stagnant gaming industry sorely needs.

If the industry followed your line of thought, we would probably never have seen the analog stick, the lightgun, the DS, the eyetoy and other similar "gimmicky" toys. So you will exuse me if I find calling it "stupid" at this early stage a bit, well, short sighted and narrow minded. But that is just my opinion.

I think you are misjudging exactly what my line of thought is.

I agree that they should get Kudos for innovation. I just think that it should be an extra accessory, not the only controller that you get when you buy. That controller would be great at a party, as are light guns and eyetoys, but to be burdened with it every time you want to play, I don't think that is ideal.

I don't see that as short sighted or narrow minded.

[GeeZa]

I've just taken our broken Wiimote apart, then carefully put it all back together (after the buttons flew everywhere), and now it's working! The wife's just beaten me at tennis. Looks like the only delicate bit in the controller is the two wires to the microphone. Everything else looks pretty solid so dunno what happened there...

[oxo]

well I can honestly confirm that playing with the new controller is a joy.

Don't be fooled by the videos that show people leaping around,
you can sit back and chill it out with it. The best part is that you
can put both hands spread out much more comfortably that clenching
a pad.

Trust me its awesome.

[Marius]

Ah, ok. So you wanted it the other way round, that is, use the classic 'cube controller(or something similar) as the primary controller and the Wiimote as a secondary? Of course, as long as it's their line of thought you find stupid and not the controller itself, I find it easier to understand your view of it being "stupid", even though I still disagree.

There will probably be loads of games that uses the classic controller, but games like Excite Truck should perhaps give the player a choice of preferred controller type.