Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

IronGiant · Post by **IronGiant** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:49 pm 0

Deckard wrote:I think we might need a Zelda thread of its own or two - spoilered and not and surely most Ninty fans arent graphic whores...

I've always preferred the 2D Zelda look such as used in A Link to the Past on the SNES and Link's Awakening on the Game Boy. Simple yet atmospheric and effective.

Yes, I think we need a Zelda thread ..........

Flabio · Post by **Flabio** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:52 pm 0

There is one, over in the 'playing the games' bit of the board.

swith · Post by **swith** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:57 pm 0

Darkflame wrote:Yes, theres a reason for the Keeping up apperences charecter being called Oslo.

His name was Onslow

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:58 pm 0

Bubba wrote:
disciple wrote:Back to the graphics again?
Yeah . I've already said that I expect it to be an awesome game, and was just saying that graphically it looks vastly inferior to Wind Waker IMHO . Or am I not allowed to talk about graphics in this thread?

It's just your first comment is how shit the graphics are, you then go on to make comparisons to 360 graphics.

I mean yeah graphics give an initial wow factor but beyond that it's the game experience that matters. There's just so much more to experience than graphics with the Wii.

Personally I think you're far too picky when it comes to graphics.

Bubba wrote:
disciple wrote:
Bubba wrote:Being able to "point" at things with the fairy and talk rather than having to face them would have been good though...
Tried it have you?
Err, yes? You *need* to be facing a character to interact with them, or am I missing something? You can point the fairy at a character, but unless you are facing them you never get the contextual speak function mapped to the A button.

Well you having to be facing them in that they have to be visible on your telly for you to be able to point at them, I don't think you don't have to be near them though, i.e. face to face.

Try holding down Z, pointing at a character "over there" with the fairy/butterfly thing and then pressing A.

teamonkey · Post by **teamonkey** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:38 pm 0

Bubba wrote:It looks generic, and feels so much like Shadow of the Colossus in places (like the entire intro ) that comparisons will be obvious. Oh, and shadow of the colossus looked miles better (even if it did have a poor framerate!). In comparison to the cube, it's an ok game (although certainly not as good looking as Resi4 was).

Yeah. It's not spectacular compared to existing PS2 and Cube games. Neither stylised nor beautiful, just a bit bland, which is very disappointing for a Zelda title.

Bubba wrote:Or am I not allowed to talk about graphics in this thread?

No, unless you're saying that the graphics are great or that they don't matter.

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:57 pm 0

Bubba wrote:The thing is, the graphics aren't that bad for a gamecube game. Had I played it a year ago I certainly wouldn't have noticed. It's just the texture res and the "brown-ness" that lets it down. It looks generic, and feels so much like Shadow of the Colossus in places (like the entire intro ) that comparisons will be obvious. Oh, and shadow of the colossus looked miles better (even if it did have a poor framerate!). In comparison to the cube, it's an ok game (although certainly not as good looking as Resi4 was). The jump from xbox to 360 seemed gradual at the time, but seeing a game like Zelda really punches home how far the other two platforms have come along graphically.

Gameplay wise, it's been pretty good so far - but that should be of no suprise Being able to "point" at things with the fairy and talk rather than having to face them would have been good though...

Cheers

Bubba

I agree that Zelda is not the prettiest game I've played, and TWW looked much better. I guess I have been spoiled by games like Kameo. But it's still a brilliant game and I'm loving every second of it.

DocDaneeka · Post by **DocDaneeka** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:11 pm 0

I think it looks quite nice myself, especially the Twilight world bits, very Ico. I haven't got a 360 or a HD telly to compare it to mind.

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:57 pm 0

teamonkey wrote:
Bubba wrote:Or am I not allowed to talk about graphics in this thread?
No, unless you're saying that the graphics are great or that they don't matter.

I think it's more that it's always negative comments about the graphics from the same quarters..

"Zelda is so very, very ugly. And the dialogue bleeping really pisses me off for some reason".

One person's experience of the game so far.

Oddly Zelda TP is getting unprecedented reviews everywhere. You could justifiably argue it's one of the greatest, most epic, most storied games any of us will play in a long long time. We're living the dream!!

"very, very ugly". A bit over the top maybe?
and then comparing the graphics to the 360?!
Gah!!

Bloody graphics Nazis, Hitler etc...

*grumble grumble*

sponge · Post by **sponge** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:59 pm 0

disciple wrote:
teamonkey wrote:
Bubba wrote:Or am I not allowed to talk about graphics in this thread?
No, unless you're saying that the graphics are great or that they don't matter.
I think it's more that it's always negative comments about the graphics from the same quarters..

"Zelda is so very, very ugly. And the dialogue bleeping really pisses me off for some reason".

One person's experience of the game so far.

Oddly Zelda TP is getting unprecedented reviews everywhere. You could justifiably argue it's one of the greatest, most epic, most storied games any of us will play in a long long time. We're living the dream!!

"very, very ugly". A bit over the top maybe?
and then comparing the graphics to the 360?!
Gah!!

Bloody graphics Nazis, Hitler etc...

*grumble grumble*

I'm glad somebody else finds Zelda ugly. It's just too busy.

PumaG · Post by **PumaG** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:01 pm 0

disciple wrote:
teamonkey wrote:
Bubba wrote:Or am I not allowed to talk about graphics in this thread?
No, unless you're saying that the graphics are great or that they don't matter.
I think it's more that it's always negative comments about the graphics from the same quarters..

"Zelda is so very, very ugly. And the dialogue bleeping really pisses me off for some reason".

One person's experience of the game so far.

Oddly Zelda TP is getting unprecedented reviews everywhere. You could justifiably argue it's one of the greatest, most epic, most storied games any of us will play in a long long time. We're living the dream!!

"very, very ugly". A bit over the top maybe?
and then comparing the graphics to the 360?!
Gah!!

Bloody graphics Nazis, Hitler etc...

*grumble grumble*

The same types were saying the same thing about the DS v PSP, they seem to have gone very very quiet.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:30 pm 0

I'm about as unactive as they come but I'm having huge amounts of fun playing Wii Tennis. Once I figured out how to do power serves and started using the second mii the games suddenly became a lot more interesting. My arm does feel like it's about to drop off though.

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:39 pm 0

disciple wrote:Try holding down Z, pointing at a character "over there" with the fairy/butterfly thing and then pressing A.

Ahh! I'd not tried it while locked on. Will have a go a bit later. I'm taking it pretty slowly (read: I'm being really shit at it!) and have only just started the cool bits, but have really been enjoying myself so far. Goat Herding is the best

Cheers

Bubba

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:47 pm 0

teamonkey wrote:Yeah. It's not spectacular compared to existing PS2 and Cube games. Neither stylised nor beautiful, just a bit bland, which is very disappointing for a Zelda title.

I think that's really hit the nail on the head. It feels a little soul-less, kind of in a difficult to describe way. Not the story I hasten to add, which no doubt will be as superb as ever. But TWW had *character* and just oozed beauty in everything it did. Little things like links dizzyness after the power spin attack and stuff.

Sorry if I'm seeming over negative on this thing - it's a fantastic game, and is easily the best launch game I've played on a console

It's just that I've been playing an awful lot of TWW recently and that is just such a *beautiful* game. I don't care that it's not full of normal maps, and high poly models.

I suppose I'm really not the graphical target audience for TP though - I much prefer fantasy adventure games in the kind of style that TWW set

Can't wait to complete it though! The horse controls are *perfection* though! Soooo much better than shadow of the colossus, even if it shares many other things in common.

Cheers

Bubba

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:49 pm 0

Zelda to me looks like ass but the problem I'm having I think is down to running it on composite. I'm hoping it gets a little easier to make out once I get some better cables. (It looks bad on my crt too).

arbster · Post by **arbster** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:06 pm 0

Zelda arrived today and so far I've played it for a few hours. Taking it slowly, I've been enjoying just messing about and looking at the scenary. I like the looks of it. Takes a bit to start off... I'm not sure if I've really started the story properly, I've just become Wolf Link (don't think that spoils anything) and will continue later. The controls work quite well too - I think using the wiimote for aiming is excellent. Found fishing awkward for a while though, but got there in the end.

Wii Sports is fun too. I enjoy the bowling - even if I can't suss out how to control the curve the ball (tips anyhow?) and the girlfriend likes the tennis. Will be giving her games when a second wiimote arrives soon.

The only real snag with the wii so far is our unfortunate accident on day one - where a jug of water on the table went flying after GF bowled right into it.

All good stuff.