Official Nintendo Fanboy Smugness & Gloating Thread

Bubba · Post by **Bubba** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:06 pm 0

GeeZa wrote:I was actually very calm when I wrote that, almost zen-like in my peace with the world.

Apologies for jumping to conclusions then, but it certainly didn't read that way.

GeeZa wrote:If someone wades in and describes a key game as being ;very very ugly"

This comment was unfair, but I was excited having just had a blinding experience with the Wii, far better than I had initially expected. And in the 10 minutes that I gave it during this time, all I saw was a few beginning scenes and more than a little in common with Shadow of the Colossus (I'm particularly thinking of the bridge scenes here). We probably played through to the goat herding bit but no further because it's not much of a party game, and when there's 10 or so people waiting to play Tennis or boxing then it has to take a sideline.

GeeZa wrote:or "souless" or "decidedly average"

Ok, I'll cover both of these but it'll have to wait - I've got an awful lot of work on at the moment, so me time is somewhat limited

GeeZa wrote:So come on Bubba, let's end this and let's see your articulation and comparisons for your dislike of the visual direction. Be as flowery with language and as lengthy as you want to be, I'm intruiged why your opinion is at variance with many others. Go for it!

Ok, I'll sit down and write a detailed evaluation of what I see as the graphical strengths and weaknesses, both in art direction and technical implementation. But it'll be a "watch this space" affair as I simply don't have the time to start writing this until other deadlines have been met, and personal stuff at home dealt with. I'm more than willing to engage in discussion on this matter, and am equally pleased that you are. As long as it doesn't deteriorate into personal attacks (which whether intended or not was what your post felt like), then hopefully this will be constructive for both of us.

Cheers

Andrew

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:49 pm 0

Excellent stuff, I will endeavour to return to my usual diplomatic style provided we can avoid the word fanboy, rolleyes and other dismissive forum shorthand. I await your prose with bated tea breath.

Edited spelling lame for Jedburgh in the spirit of mutual understanding and progress

Post by **Jedburgh** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:53 pm 0

BATED, YOU CRETIN.

(Spends far too long fretting over whether to append a winky or not; dies)

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:59 pm 0

HGFB wrote:Look what I just got

All I want now is for it to be hometime.

Good show, that's two of us now in the UK.

I'll let you into a secret, although I've had a component cable since 8th December I don't actually own a component telly!!

All is not lost though since one of these should be arriving first thing tmrw.

Delivered from Amazon, at around 7am. 42" of gaming heaven bought ultra cheap due to an Amazon misprice.

This will be my fifth TFT, hopefully this one won't disappoint like the others have. Can't wait I've been holding off playing Zelda till it arrives.

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:03 pm 0

Mat T wrote:
disciple wrote:you push it in to eject.
OK, well if that is the case, my Wii SD Card slot ain't working. Boo.

I have 3 SD Cards here, 2 of them work fine but the 2GB one sticks a bit and doesn't want to eject because the slot is a bit tight. I'm thinking the build tolerances aren't quite right and it might be that the SD Card hole in your Wii is also a bit tight and that's preventing the eject?

If it is indeed buggered just take it back as faulty once the Wii supply is a bit more plentiful.

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:03 pm 0

I can play Zelda without getting a headache now

I'm amazed however at how much sharper the picture is in SMB64 over Zelda. If there were any decent NES games on the VC I'd try that but there isn't so I won't.

disciple · Post by **disciple** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:33 pm 0

HGFB wrote:I can play Zelda without getting a headache now

High praise indeed!

But what about those of us who don't get headaches should we upgrade?

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:36 pm 0

Hmm. Let me think. Shitty composhite in 567i or much nicer colours and detail in 480P. Tough choice.

C'mon. Is it really that hard a choice? Even if your TV doesn't have component you should really get yourself an RGB cable. Unless your TV doesn't support RGB in which case what the hell are you doing wasting money on a Wii when your TV needs upgrading?

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:40 pm 0

because we like to have fun?

tufty · Post by **tufty** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:42 pm 0

disciple wrote:I'm thinking the build tolerances aren't quite right and it might be that the SD Card hole in your Wii is also a bit tight and that's preventing the eject?

"tight wii-hole"

Yes.

Yes, indeed.

I *must* have one of these consoles, and as soon as possible.

Simon

fog · Post by **fog** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:50 pm 0

Freeloader for Wii games?

SPOnG has just been speaking to our friends at Datel, who have sent us details on a couple of cheap as chips must-have Wii gizmos. They have also informed us that region-unlocking software for Wii â€“ to enable you to play US Wii titles (providing you have an NTSC-compatible TV of course) is being developed and should be arriving â€˜very soon.â€™

http://spong.com/article/11331/Region-f ... 835&cb=645

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:05 pm 0

Anyone who followed the original freeloader knows what their idea of "very soon" is

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:06 pm 0

I've just tried my other VC game. Golden Axe. It's a vast, vast improvement over composite. This might turn out to be a nice retro console after all.

Governmentyard · Post by **Governmentyard** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:14 pm 0

Right, I've just bought a telly which is 21" and has 2 scart cables on the back and an 'rf' ariel socket.

When I get my Wii, what will it come with - one of those red, yellow and white composite things? I haven't got one of these component cable tellies, in fact I've only ever seen one in operation so what will I need to improve my new telly picture over what the Wii comes with - I'm guessing a scart to Wii lead? In which case do those have audio outs? I've got third party leads from my gamecube and XBox onti my telly, with red&white phono leads coming off each to route my sound to the hifi. This is basically what I'm after for the Wii, but all anyone seems to be talking about is this component stuff whic no-one I know has, apart from Yak & Giles and a few people off here I've never met.

Are the complaints to do with the Wii being higher res than the cube and that looking worse on normal tellies than the cube did?

I realise that we're all snobs on here - the notion of PAL games being shit is not something that had ever crossed my mind in two decades of gaming before I came on here though - so I'm wondering just how much of a problem having 'normal' telly is with the newest gen of consoles. I've already been advised not to get a 360 for Dead Rising because you can't see anyhting properly. Hmm...

HGFB · Post by **HGFB** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:17 pm 0

The Wii comes with a composite cable and an adapter to plug it into scart. To get a better picture than composhite you'll need an RGB cable when Nintendo get around to shipping them.

Of course one of your scart sockets will need to support RGB. Check the manual. It's normally scart 1.

*Edit* The complaints are down to the fact that our TVs support a much better quality of picture than composite provides (Either RGB or component - SVideo for the Merkins) and Nintendo are late in shipping the required cables.