Stuff that REALLY annoys you.

[Cloudane]

Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004.

Seconded - especially when you start typing in a CSS layer and for some obscure reason it jumps to the top of the screen so you can't see what you're typing.

And working with CSS layers in general, especially footers - UGH! Headache!

IAAWD, but only a new one.

[piku]

Layers... yes you must mean the way that positioning them bears little resemblance to how they will actually appear in a real browser?

"Please put my DHTML dialog box exactly here"
...
"no, no I wanted it actually on the screen please Mr Web Browser"

But it's the best we've got.

[Cloudane]

Yup yup exactly

So far I've found that IE does what I tell it to whilst Firefox does weird shit, but everyone says (probably rightly) that Firefox is the correct one as it's written to strict standards.

[teen voice]Whatevvvarrr[/teen voice] - I just want the bloody thing to work plz kthx!

If you're *really* thorough (and/or a masochist) you try it in Opera and watch it break even further.

[goldfish]

Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004

The latest version is substantially better. I fought off an upgrade from MX to MX2004 after trying the demo and finding it did most things worse than the older version.

MX8 on the other hand is pretty good, and significantly quicker.

Simon

[SpookyElectric1]

People at train stations that gather in crowds just outside the fucking doors, so that people trying to leave the train has to fight their way out.

Or, to be more precise, the station manager that allows the announcing of a platform before the train has entered the station which allows people to gather in crowds outside the doors of a train and subsequently block the entire platform with passesgers trying to go in different directions.

WAIT UNTIL THE TRAIN HAS EMPTIED AND THE PLATFORM CLEARED AND THEN ANNOUNCE THE PLATFORM DUMBASS!

[Cloudane]

*nods* I'm pushing our finance people for an upgrade to DW8 as we speak, if only for the fix to the jumping when typing in a layer thing.

[piku]

I would like all web browsers to follow the HTML standard exactly, to the letter. No variations, no hacks, no "undocumented features that are now standard". Just go to the W3C, get the spec, make it work. No extras, the browser war is pointless, get over it.

And then I'd like web designers to actually write compliant code.

Maybe then we can move to this Web2.0 thing people keep yapping about.

Yes, most of the Internet would then instantly break overnight, but that means more employment opportunities for people who can write proper code

[piku]

Guess who's doing web development

That way MSIE has of auto-selecting bits of text that it thinks you need. See this text:

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<td><%# DataBinder.Eval(Container.DataItem, "CatName") %></td>

Using MSIE, selecting the

<%# DataBinder.Eval(Container.DataItem, "CatName") %>

part is impossible, it insists on capturing the ">" and "</" of the two neighbouring tags. I know it can be "trained" to grab the bits you want by subtly wiggling the mouse, but that takes more effort than just doing the selection the "normal" way. My hand is moving left->right so you're not really helping me by saving a few inches of hand movement.

"Intelligent" software just isn't.

[leekfiend]

At least the Wii is original - if you want to see people buying things for the sake of trends, try the PS3...

Which brings me to another one - Sony being arrogant pieces of filth who rape all of their fans!

I vote for:

People who don't have the strength of their convictions.

I know two "hardcore gamers" who both claim to detest Sony, and when I told them about Lik-Sang getting shut down they both went "bunch of cunts".

But when I ask them if they're going to buy a George Foreman Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Console (FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS!) they have the following replies:

1) "Yes, I'll get one, because I want Tekken 6"
2) "Yes, I'll get one, because I want Final Fantasy twohundredandfuckinghowevermanythey'reuptonow"

How about "not if it was the last way on Earth to play videogames, someone wrote a game for it which was better than ALL videogames that have ever preceded it, it was free, and I got a personal apology from a spookily-resurrected Akio Morita for all of the shit Sony has perpetrated upon the words of gaming and computing in the last couple of years"? How about THAT? Because that's how *I* feel about the cunts and their Gaystation 3.

In fact, this can be condensed: "Sony".

[Marius]

Well, I'm no fan of Sony, but I do want FF XIII...

[Cloudane]

Yes, FFXIII is dangerous that way. It really depends on how FFXII goes, though.

[kalmar]

Ooh, a new one.
When you get a car tax reminder and it says in the box in the top right hand corner "you can renew online" so you go online while you're having your breakfast cup of tea and you think it'll only take a minute, what could be difficult about it but then where it shows you the "reference number" should be on the form, it's the box where it only says "you can renew online" so that's a bit frustrating but then it says "or you can use the number off your V5C form" so you go to find the V5C form and this is already taking longer than you thought but you find the form and type the number in and then it says "but it's only January and your car tax does not need to be renewed until February" well why send me the bloody form in January then? But if you register now anyway your next tax will start from January - and it's free anyway and 01/01/08 is easy to remember so you press OK and then it says "but we can't find your vehicle in the insurance database" so we have cancelled this registration.

And your tea has gone cold.

[offyoutoddle]

Ooh, a new one.
When you get a car tax reminder and it says in the box in the top right hand corner "you can renew online" so you go online while you're having your breakfast cup of tea and you think it'll only take a minute, what could be difficult about it but then where it shows you the "reference number" should be on the form, it's the box where it only says "you can renew online" so that's a bit frustrating but then it says "or you can use the number off your V5C form" so you go to find the V5C form and this is already taking longer than you thought but you find the form and type the number in and then it says "but it's only January and your car tax does not need to be renewed until February" well why send me the bloody form in January then? But if you register now anyway your next tax will start from January - and it's free anyway and 01/01/08 is easy to remember so you press OK and then it says "but we can't find your vehicle in the insurance database" so we have cancelled this registration.

And your tea has gone cold.

I know you have to wait until the 15th of the month before you can do it, but it seems pretty conclusive if your not in the database I would imagine.

[Dungeon-Dave]

Might I also put in an entry for the File Transfer Protocol too? There's so much text that the clients and server throw at each other before file transfer can even start.

They don't need to, you know. Like the SMTP protocol, they throw status codes followed by an explanation, but at the server end you can reduce the messages... and at the (graphical) client end, you can tell it not to bother performing a "pwd" and "ls" before allowing further operations.

Traditionally in the older days of command-line FTP those messages were useful. With graphical FTP clients they will have a tendency to slow things down.

[piku]

Might I also put in an entry for the File Transfer Protocol too? There's so much text that the clients and server throw at each other before file transfer can even start.

They don't need to, you know. Like the SMTP protocol, they throw status codes followed by an explanation, but at the server end you can reduce the messages... and at the (graphical) client end, you can tell it not to bother performing a "pwd" and "ls" before allowing further operations.

Traditionally in the older days of command-line FTP those messages were useful. With graphical FTP clients they will have a tendency to slow things down.

Nobody bothers though, do they?

Today's gripe is JavaScript and ASP.NET. I think that says enough, although specifically...

this code

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Page.RegisterClientScriptBlock ("dw_layerops.js",
  			 "<script language=javascript src='dw_layerops.js'></"
   			+"script>");

works, but this code

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Page.RegisterClientScriptBlock ("dw_layerops.js",
"<script language=javascript src='dw_layerops.js'>"
   			+"</script>");

doesn't (spot the difference?). Neither does this:

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Page.RegisterClientScriptBlock ("dw_layerops.js",
"<script language=javascript src='dw_layerops.js'></script>");

which is stupid. The ASP parser complains about "newline in constant".

Whenever I discover this stuff my respect for the Google coders goes up. I wonder if the Google code ninjas live in nice, quiet padded cells.

Oh yeah, and this example from the MSDN doesn't even compile...
here

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Page.RegisterStartupScript("MyScript", _
   "<script language=javascript>" & _
   "function AlertHello() { alert('Hello ASP.NET'); }</script>")

since neither me nor the ASP parser know what a "& _" is...

I hate web development, it's shit.